GOP More Blue Collar, Diverse; Dems More Elite, White

m.knox

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Axios..... Now Paoli must believe it. lol... He is a member of the white elite party.

The great realignment​


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/14/republicans-democrats-hispnanic-voters?stream=top

Shifts in the demographics of the two parties' supporters — taking place before our eyes — are arguably the biggest political story of our time.

The big picture: Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial. Democrats are becoming more elite and a little more white.

Why it matters: Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on nonwhite voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition. Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make even incremental gains with those voters.

  • Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
What the data show: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

  • An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees — up from 10 points from 2010. Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic group tested in the survey.
  • Nearly every House pickup in the 2020 election came from a woman or non-white challenger. The GOP's ability to win back a House majority this year rests on the success of candidates breaking the party’s typical mold.
What's happening: Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of working-class voters.

  • Progressive activists led the push to cut police budgets. Communities of color have borne the brunt of higher crime.
  • Hispanics living on the U.S.-Mexico border are more likely to favor tougher border security measures that Republicans have championed.
  • The recall of liberal school board members and a district attorney in San Francisco was fueled by disillusioned Asian-American Democrats.
Between the lines: Add the reality of growing inflation and worries of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing ground with a core part of their coalition.

  • Wealthier Americans aren’t feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
  • This week's Times/Siena poll found affluent voters care about gun control and abortion rights. Working-class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
Reality check: Suburban districts still make up the majority of congressional battlegrounds, and the GOP’s Trumpified brand remains a threat to limit their gains.

  • Republican candidates holding extreme views on abortion or echoing Trump’s election lies are still toxic in the suburbs.
  • Since the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling, Democrats have made small gains in national polls.
The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.
 

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The DNC has officially become "The Party of Karen."
And their Chief
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PaoliLion

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Axios..... Now Paoli must believe it. lol... He is a member of the white elite party.

The great realignment​


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/14/republicans-democrats-hispnanic-voters?stream=top

Shifts in the demographics of the two parties' supporters — taking place before our eyes — are arguably the biggest political story of our time.

The big picture: Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial. Democrats are becoming more elite and a little more white.

Why it matters: Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on nonwhite voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition. Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make even incremental gains with those voters.


  • Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
What the data show: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

  • An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees — up from 10 points from 2010. Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic group tested in the survey.
  • Nearly every House pickup in the 2020 election came from a woman or non-white challenger. The GOP's ability to win back a House majority this year rests on the success of candidates breaking the party’s typical mold.
What's happening: Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of working-class voters.

  • Progressive activists led the push to cut police budgets. Communities of color have borne the brunt of higher crime.
  • Hispanics living on the U.S.-Mexico border are more likely to favor tougher border security measures that Republicans have championed.
  • The recall of liberal school board members and a district attorney in San Francisco was fueled by disillusioned Asian-American Democrats.
Between the lines: Add the reality of growing inflation and worries of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing ground with a core part of their coalition.

  • Wealthier Americans aren’t feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
  • This week's Times/Siena poll found affluent voters care about gun control and abortion rights. Working-class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
Reality check: Suburban districts still make up the majority of congressional battlegrounds, and the GOP’s Trumpified brand remains a threat to limit their gains.

  • Republican candidates holding extreme views on abortion or echoing Trump’s election lies are still toxic in the suburbs.
  • Since the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling, Democrats have made small gains in national polls.
The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.
Axios..... Now Paoli must believe it. lol... He is a member of the white elite party.

The great realignment​


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/14/republicans-democrats-hispnanic-voters?stream=top

Shifts in the demographics of the two parties' supporters — taking place before our eyes — are arguably the biggest political story of our time.

The big picture: Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial. Democrats are becoming more elite and a little more white.

Why it matters: Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on nonwhite voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition. Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make even incremental gains with those voters.


  • Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
What the data show: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

  • An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees — up from 10 points from 2010. Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic group tested in the survey.
  • Nearly every House pickup in the 2020 election came from a woman or non-white challenger. The GOP's ability to win back a House majority this year rests on the success of candidates breaking the party’s typical mold.
What's happening: Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of working-class voters.

  • Progressive activists led the push to cut police budgets. Communities of color have borne the brunt of higher crime.
  • Hispanics living on the U.S.-Mexico border are more likely to favor tougher border security measures that Republicans have championed.
  • The recall of liberal school board members and a district attorney in San Francisco was fueled by disillusioned Asian-American Democrats.
Between the lines: Add the reality of growing inflation and worries of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing ground with a core part of their coalition.

  • Wealthier Americans aren’t feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
  • This week's Times/Siena poll found affluent voters care about gun control and abortion rights. Working-class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
Reality check: Suburban districts still make up the majority of congressional battlegrounds, and the GOP’s Trumpified brand remains a threat to limit their gains.

  • Republican candidates holding extreme views on abortion or echoing Trump’s election lies are still toxic in the suburbs.
  • Since the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling, Democrats have made small gains in national polls.
The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.

The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.

That’s putting it way to politely.
 

PaoliLion

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Why are minorities and immigrants abandoning the DNC in record numbers? Lord knows, the GOP isn't buying their allegiance with promises of other people's money.

Here’s the polling data on hispanics from Gallup


Trump did very poorly with hispanics in 2016 and it bounced back to a more normal state in 2020. Likely because he was anti-lock downs and they got used to his bluster. However, he also did well with Cuban americans in Florida and hispanics on the border with Mexico. However, there doesn’t appear to be a change in sentiment from hispanic voters. They still identify as democrats.

Blacks, Asians, etc. aren’t moving at all towards the Republican side, it’s not even worth discussing.

You’re going to keep seeing stories like these (from Axios) because the Republicans are going to be pumping the story going into the mid-terms. They are desperate to convert hispanics. The person who wrote the article is a hardcore Republican and just pumping the party messaging.

The story on the democrats becoming “more elite”, or however the author frames, it Is a bit dated. The wealthy have voted Democrat for a long time, but a lot of polling data didn’t tier income brackets beyond $100K and older (more republican) generations lean conservative and the average joe took that to mean that “wealthy people vote republican”. The suburbs have been gradually shifting Democrat for quite some time.
 
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Here’s the polling data on hispanics from Gallup



Trump did very poorly with hispanics in 2016 and it bounced back to a more normal state in 2020. Likely because he was anti-lock downs and they got used to his bluster. However, he also did well with Cuban americans in Florida and hispanics on the border with Mexico. However, there doesn’t appear to be a change in sentiment from hispanic voters. They still identify as democrats.

Blacks, Asians, etc. aren’t moving at all towards the Republican side, it’s not even worth discussing.

You’re going to keep seeing stories like these (from Axios) because the Republicans are going to be pumping the story going into the mid-terms. They are desperate to convert hispanics. The person who wrote the article is a hardcore Republican and just pumping the party messaging.

The story on the democrats becoming “more elite”, or however the author frames, it Is a bit dated. The wealthy have voted Democrat for a long time, but a lot of polling data didn’t tier income brackets beyond $100K and older (more republican) generations lean conservative and the average joe took that to mean that “wealthy people vote republican”. The suburbs have been gradually shifting Democrat for quite some time.
Well, that's one poll. Here's another from the WSJ:

"Asked which party they would back if the election were today, 37% of Hispanic voters said they would support the Republican congressional candidate and 37% said they would favor the Democrat, with 22% undecided."

Guess we'll see where everyone stands at the midterms but I expect to see more hispanics jumping from the DNC to the GOP.
 
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The GOP, party of working class Americans of ALL races, sexes, religions......
Careful, the CEO will contact Iran and have them come after you. What a pos.
 
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Always considered the word "elite" in its aristocratic sense. Now the one percenter plutocrats who have taken over our democracy are using it as a term of disparagement to discredit the well educated, who actually have an informed perspective to see through the political and international chicanery that is threatening our representative form of government.

Definition
1asingular or plural in construction : the choice part : CREAMthe elite of the entertainment world
bsingular or plural in construction : the best of a classsuperachievers who dominate the computer elite— Marilyn Chase
csingular or plural in construction : the socially superior part of societyhow the French-speaking elite … was changing— Economist
d: a group of persons who by virtue of position or education exercise much power or influencemembers of the ruling elite
e: a member of such an elite —usually used in pluralthe elites …, pursuing their studies in Europe— Robert Wernick
 
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m.knox

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Always considered the word "elite" in its aristocratic sense. Now the one percenter plutocrats who have taken over our democracy are using it as a term of disparagement to discredit the well educated, who actually have an informed perspective to see through the political and international chicanery that is threatening our representative form of government.

Definition
1asingular or plural in construction : the choice part : CREAMthe elite of the entertainment world
bsingular or plural in construction : the best of a classsuperachievers who dominate the computer elite— Marilyn Chase
csingular or plural in construction : the socially superior part of societyhow the French-speaking elite … was changing— Economist
d: a group of persons who by virtue of position or education exercise much power or influencemembers of the ruling elite
e: a member of such an elite —usually used in pluralthe elites …, pursuing their studies in Europe— Robert Wernick

So you are white...... I get it.
 

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Axios..... Now Paoli must believe it. lol... He is a member of the white elite party.

The great realignment​


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/14/republicans-democrats-hispnanic-voters?stream=top

Shifts in the demographics of the two parties' supporters — taking place before our eyes — are arguably the biggest political story of our time.

The big picture: Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial. Democrats are becoming more elite and a little more white.

Why it matters: Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on nonwhite voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition. Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make even incremental gains with those voters.


  • Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
What the data show: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

  • An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees — up from 10 points from 2010. Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic group tested in the survey.
  • Nearly every House pickup in the 2020 election came from a woman or non-white challenger. The GOP's ability to win back a House majority this year rests on the success of candidates breaking the party’s typical mold.
What's happening: Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of working-class voters.

  • Progressive activists led the push to cut police budgets. Communities of color have borne the brunt of higher crime.
  • Hispanics living on the U.S.-Mexico border are more likely to favor tougher border security measures that Republicans have championed.
  • The recall of liberal school board members and a district attorney in San Francisco was fueled by disillusioned Asian-American Democrats.
Between the lines: Add the reality of growing inflation and worries of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing ground with a core part of their coalition.

  • Wealthier Americans aren’t feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
  • This week's Times/Siena poll found affluent voters care about gun control and abortion rights. Working-class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
Reality check: Suburban districts still make up the majority of congressional battlegrounds, and the GOP’s Trumpified brand remains a threat to limit their gains.

  • Republican candidates holding extreme views on abortion or echoing Trump’s election lies are still toxic in the suburbs.
  • Since the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling, Democrats have made small gains in national polls.
The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.
Dems more educated, logical, empathetic. GOP more ignorant, irrational, selfish.
 
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There is truth to this. Saagar talked about this a few weeks ago (see link below). One interesting bit that tells a lot is that in a recent poll (a New York Times poll for those that think it's a right-wing polling outfit), for the first time ever in a national survey, Democrats have a larger share of support among white college graduates than among non-white voters.


Another good indicator is the word "Latinx." That's a word created by educated elites to apply to Latino people and that has been adopted by the Democrats. Latino people hate that term. The two polls I've seen say 96 and 98% of Latinos dislike the term. Look up results for yourself and I suspect you'll see something similar. When an ethnic group as a whole hates a term and you insist on calling them that anyway, it's a racial slur.
 

m.knox

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There is truth to this. Saagar talked about this a few weeks ago (see link below). One interesting bit that tells a lot is that in a recent poll (a New York Times poll for those that think it's a right-wing polling outfit), for the first time ever in a national survey, Democrats have a larger share of support among white college graduates than among non-white voters.



Another good indicator is the word "Latinx." That's a word created by educated elites to apply to Latino people and that has been adopted by the Democrats. Latino people hate that term. The two polls I've seen say 96 and 98% of Latinos dislike the term. Look up results for yourself and I suspect you'll see something similar. When an ethnic group as a whole hates a term and you insist on calling them that anyway, it's a racial slur.

"Latinx".............. Another good example of WHITE LIBERAL ELITESITS at work........
 

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Axios..... Now Paoli must believe it. lol... He is a member of the white elite party.

The great realignment​


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/14/republicans-democrats-hispnanic-voters?stream=top

Shifts in the demographics of the two parties' supporters — taking place before our eyes — are arguably the biggest political story of our time.

The big picture: Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial. Democrats are becoming more elite and a little more white.

Why it matters: Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on nonwhite voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition. Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make even incremental gains with those voters.


  • Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
What the data show: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

  • An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees — up from 10 points from 2010. Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic group tested in the survey.
  • Nearly every House pickup in the 2020 election came from a woman or non-white challenger. The GOP's ability to win back a House majority this year rests on the success of candidates breaking the party’s typical mold.
What's happening: Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of working-class voters.

  • Progressive activists led the push to cut police budgets. Communities of color have borne the brunt of higher crime.
  • Hispanics living on the U.S.-Mexico border are more likely to favor tougher border security measures that Republicans have championed.
  • The recall of liberal school board members and a district attorney in San Francisco was fueled by disillusioned Asian-American Democrats.
Between the lines: Add the reality of growing inflation and worries of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing ground with a core part of their coalition.

  • Wealthier Americans aren’t feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
  • This week's Times/Siena poll found affluent voters care about gun control and abortion rights. Working-class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
Reality check: Suburban districts still make up the majority of congressional battlegrounds, and the GOP’s Trumpified brand remains a threat to limit their gains.

  • Republican candidates holding extreme views on abortion or echoing Trump’s election lies are still toxic in the suburbs.
  • Since the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling, Democrats have made small gains in national polls.
The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.
Wouldn't use the term "elite" to refer to Dems. Would call them, pompous, uninformed and privileged.
 

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Axios..... Now Paoli must believe it. lol... He is a member of the white elite party.

The great realignment​


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/14/republicans-democrats-hispnanic-voters?stream=top

Shifts in the demographics of the two parties' supporters — taking place before our eyes — are arguably the biggest political story of our time.

The big picture: Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial. Democrats are becoming more elite and a little more white.

Why it matters: Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on nonwhite voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition. Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make even incremental gains with those voters.


  • Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
What the data show: Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week. Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.

  • An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees — up from 10 points from 2010. Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic group tested in the survey.
  • Nearly every House pickup in the 2020 election came from a woman or non-white challenger. The GOP's ability to win back a House majority this year rests on the success of candidates breaking the party’s typical mold.
What's happening: Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of working-class voters.

  • Progressive activists led the push to cut police budgets. Communities of color have borne the brunt of higher crime.
  • Hispanics living on the U.S.-Mexico border are more likely to favor tougher border security measures that Republicans have championed.
  • The recall of liberal school board members and a district attorney in San Francisco was fueled by disillusioned Asian-American Democrats.
Between the lines: Add the reality of growing inflation and worries of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing ground with a core part of their coalition.

  • Wealthier Americans aren’t feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
  • This week's Times/Siena poll found affluent voters care about gun control and abortion rights. Working-class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
Reality check: Suburban districts still make up the majority of congressional battlegrounds, and the GOP’s Trumpified brand remains a threat to limit their gains.

  • Republican candidates holding extreme views on abortion or echoing Trump’s election lies are still toxic in the suburbs.
  • Since the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling, Democrats have made small gains in national polls.
The bottom line: The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.
So I'm more elite than you? There was never a doubt.
 

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As far as I'm concerned both political parties have forgotten most level thinking Americans and are moving dramatically to the left and right. Neither party really represents the beliefs and opinions of most Americans.
 
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As far as I'm concerned both political parties have forgotten most level thinking Americans and are moving dramatically to the left and right. Neither party really represents the beliefs and opinions of most Americans.
The right hasn’t moved more right , the left has moved more left. More republicans were pro life than democrats 30 plus years ago.
Bob Casey was the last pro life politician I can recall who is/was a democrat . Jesse Jackson was himself pro life decades ago.
More democrats were solidly pro gun years ago, 20 plus.
The democrats have moved hard left. Most republicans have stayed where they always where.
Now let’s do the border ? More democrats were calling for border security 10 or more years ago.

You’re doing this. This is a fatal error for most republicans , that somehow compromise is good . It’s actually lead us to this current mess because the left never gives the right anything .
Wake up.
 
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The right hasn’t moved more right , the left has moved more left. More republicans were pro life than democrats 30 plus years ago.
Bob Casey was the last pro life politician I can recall who is/was a democrat . Jesse Jackson was himself pro life decades ago.
More democrats were solidly pro gun years ago, 20 plus.
The democrats have moved hard left. Most republicans have stayed where they always where.
Now let’s do the border ? More democrats were calling for border security 10 or more years ago.

You’re doing this. This is a fatal error for most republicans , that somehow compromise is good . It’s actually lead us to this current mess because the left never gives the right anything .
Wake up.
You are exactly right Bourbon. This nonsense that both parties are at fault is ridiculous. Yes, the Republicans have some clowns that can be extreme, but the Democrat Party is downright nuts and have gone so far left that it’s hard t imagine them going much further left.
 
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You are exactly right Bourbon. This nonsense that both parties are at fault is ridiculous. Yes, the Republicans have some clowns that can be extreme, but the Democrat Party is downright nuts and have gone so far left that it’s hard t imagine them going much further left.
They will until their either destroy themselves or themselves and us. I’m not saying republicans don’t have any goofs, however some who are said to fit that bill have solid , pro American positions .
As opposed to straight up Marxists like Bernie . Or deluded , elitist socialists like almost every other democrat .
 
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The right hasn’t moved more right , the left has moved more left. More republicans were pro life than democrats 30 plus years ago.
Bob Casey was the last pro life politician I can recall who is/was a democrat . Jesse Jackson was himself pro life decades ago.
More democrats were solidly pro gun years ago, 20 plus.
The democrats have moved hard left. Most republicans have stayed where they always where.
Now let’s do the border ? More democrats were calling for border security 10 or more years ago.

You’re doing this. This is a fatal error for most republicans , that somehow compromise is good . It’s actually lead us to this current mess because the left never gives the right anything .
Wake up.
But there seems to more right extremists like Jones and Fuentes influencing party politicians. Same on the left.