FC: Sandusky Sex Tape and Ira Lubert

[JoeBatters1]

I just listened to Ziegler’s appearance yesterday on Kevin Slaten’s show. Ziegler discusses the Sandusky sex tape and how Heim was apparently ready to come to Sandusky's defense when everything hit the fan in November 2011, but was told not to defend Sandusky because a contact of Heim’s, who was apparently close to Ira Lubert, told Heim there was a sex tape of Sandusky with a boy. Heim relays this story to Ziegler, who tries to convince Heim that the story can’t be true since there would be no way such a tape would not have surfaced already given the fire storm around this affair. Heim apparently refuses to believe Ziegler and doesn’t believe his friends at PSU would mislead him. Ziegler indicates that he basically pesters Ira Lubert to confirm if a sex tape ever existed and after a number of attempts in trying to get Lubert to respond, Lubert finally sends Ziegler an email indicating that no sex tape exists. If Ziegler is telling the truth (no reason to expect he isn't), where did this whole sex tape story come from and what role did Ira Lubert play in disseminating it? I find it a very bizarre story.

As a side note, Ziegler discusses the pennlawfumble article and indicates it was written by a prominent lawyer in Northern California, but he does not appear to know who it is. He relays an interesting story that he spoke to Dick Vermeil about the whole Sandusky case and Vermeil (who wrote the introduction to Sanduskys book) told Ziegler that Herman Edwards mentioned to Vermeil a while back that there was a lawyer in California that was going to blow the whole case against Sandusky wide open. So according to Ziegler, Edwards knows who the lawyer is who wrote the article. Ziegler attributes this to Edwards being from California, but he gets it wrong when he indicates Edwards attended Cal – Edwards attended San Diego State (he is from Monterey though). Just found it interesting that Herman Edwards of all people is linked into this whole mess.

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

Ziegler is full of it. I can't take the Soapy vapors anymore. The only way anything that man says makes an ounce of sense is with the help of a plentitude of Old Grand Dad.

Now we have a sex tape. And Herman Edwards is the key to everything.

Just stop the insanity already. For the love of God stop it.

 

[wensilver]

I'd like to see the email from Lubert.

Until the person who wrote the PennLawFumble blog attaches their name to it.....it's all just smoke.

 

[psuro]

Herm Edwards:

"You. Litigate. To. Win. The. Case!"

 

[Westcoast24]

I just listened to Ziegler’s appearance yesterday on Kevin Slaten’s show. Ziegler discusses the Sandusky sex tape and how Heim was apparently ready to come to Sandusky's defense when everything hit the fan in November 2011, but was told not to defend Sandusky because a contact of Heim’s, who was apparently close to Ira Lubert, told Heim there was a sex tape of Sandusky with a boy. Heim relays this story to Ziegler, who tries to convince Heim that the story can’t be true since there would be no way such a tape would not have surfaced already given the fire storm around this affair. Heim apparently refuses to believe Ziegler and doesn’t believe his friends at PSU would mislead him. Ziegler indicates that he basically pesters Ira Lubert to confirm if a sex tape ever existed and after a number of attempts in trying to get Lubert to respond, Lubert finally sends Ziegler an email indicating that no sex tape exists. If Ziegler is telling the truth, where did this whole sex tape story come from and what role did Ira Lubert play in disseminating it? I find it a very bizarre story.

As a side note, Ziegler discusses the pennlawfumble article and indicates it was written by a prominent lawyer in Northern California, but he does not appear to know who it is. He relays an interesting story that he spoke to Dick Vermeil about the whole Sandusky case and Vermeil (who wrote the introduction to Sanduskys book) told Ziegler that Herman Edwards mentioned to Vermeil a while back that there was a lawyer in California that was going to blow the whole case against Sandusky wide open. So according to Ziegler, Edwards knows who the lawyer is who wrote the article. Ziegler attributes this to Edwards being from California, but he gets it wrong when he indicates Edwards attended Cal – Edwards attended San Diego State (he is from Monterey though). Just found it interesting that Herman Edwards of all people is linked into this whole mess.

EPIC!

 

[Frank Sheeran]

Alleged sex tape mentioned by Heim is consistent with our intel. And our sources are impeccable.

But, remember when i said tsm top tier "are liars"?

Ira is a fellow casino guy and i trust him more.

That "Mean old levee is goin' to break, Cryin' won't help you, Prayin' won't do you no good"

Ciao

 

[Rudy4526]

Frank the question is when will the levee break

 

[michnittlion]

I'd like to see the email from Lubert.

Until the person who wrote the PennLawFumble blog attaches their name to it.....it's all just smoke.

The PennLawFumble blog does have one name associated with it:

http://www.pennlawfumble.info/contact.htm

David Armanasco.

Who --- if I have his Linkedin profile correct --- lives in Monterey, CA now and attended San Diego State in the late 1960s.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-armanasco/8/184/683

Now, Ziegler's probably just blowing smoke (wouldn't be the first time). But there could at least be a theoretical connection between this Armanasco guy and Herm Edwards.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

San Diego State is also known as "CAL State - San Diego". Some people contract it to Cal San Diego or Cal SD. Occasionally, it could be referred to as Cal if someone was trying to be brief or tweeeting.

 

[michnittlion]

San Diego State is also known as "CAL State - San Diego". Some people contract it to Cal San Diego or Cal SD. Occasionally, it could be referred to as Cal if someone was trying to be brief or tweeeting.

Yep --- Ziegler's crazy but him mixing up San Diego State and Cal is no big deal.

Besides San Diego State and University of San Diego, there's a 3rd school down there. University of California, San Diego (UC-San Diego). D-2 athletics but a very good academic school. AAU member.

Also a cool nickname: the Tritons.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

Alleged sex tape mentioned by Heim is consistent with our intel. And our sources are impeccable.

But, remember when i said tsm top tier "are liars"?

Ira is a fellow casino guy and i trust him more.

That "Mean old levee is goin' to break, Cryin' won't help you, Prayin' won't do you no good"

Ciao

Of this, I am certain: In Frank's world, you cannot afford to be anything BUT impeccable as a "source". Thanks Frank!

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

Yep --- Ziegler's crazy but him mixing up San Diego State and Cal is no big deal.

Besides San Diego State and University of San Diego, there's a 3rd school down there. University of California, San Diego (UC-San Diego). D-2 athletics but a very good academic school. AAU member.

Also a cool nickname: the Tritons.

The UC school system is constantly confused with the Cal State school system. I believe that Berkley (UC Berkley) is a private university but am not sure if UCLA is private. They all seem the same to most outsiders.

 

[ChiTownLion]

There is USD, UCSD and SDSU.

 

[michnittlion]

So I perused "pennlawfumble.info" (which I did not know existed prior to today) over the course of the last hour .......

It is not uninteresting. It is thought-out and it has some good sources. It is not an amateurishly presented website like framingpaterno.com is (seriously John Ziegler, if you are reading, pay a few thousand bucks and get a web developer on that).

And all evidently from some random, out-of-nowhere person who has no prior connection to Penn State, and wishes to remain (for now) anonymous.

Still, that anonymous author does evidently has a relationship with a PR spokesperson --- a PR spokesperson who believes enough in the anonymous author to put his OWN name on pennlawfumble.info. I only know this from google sleuthing, but that PR person doesn't seem crazy or unstable --- he seems to be a fairly well-respected, credible member of the Monterey, CA community. E.g., he is the type of person who would only allow his own name onto pennlawfumble.info because he believes in the anonymous author.

Hmmmmm.

So, I'm not dismissing it. That said --- the author HAS to put his name to it if the conversation is to advance further. Otherwise, it's gonna die on the vine.

 

[Doc-M]

It takes some doing to build a shack, any idiot can tear down a palace. I am referring to many posts above criticizing the work of John Ziegler. JZ has done an outstanding research with dogged determination. Other than the Ray Blehar nobody else even comes close to what JZ has unearthed.

Search for truth continues!

 

[Adlee73]

I just listened to Ziegler’s appearance yesterday on Kevin Slaten’s show. Ziegler discusses the Sandusky sex tape and how Heim was apparently ready to come to Sandusky's defense when everything hit the fan in November 2011, but was told not to defend Sandusky because a contact of Heim’s, who was apparently close to Ira Lubert, told Heim there was a sex tape of Sandusky with a boy. Heim relays this story to Ziegler, who tries to convince Heim that the story can’t be true since there would be no way such a tape would not have surfaced already given the fire storm around this affair. Heim apparently refuses to believe Ziegler and doesn’t believe his friends at PSU would mislead him. Ziegler indicates that he basically pesters Ira Lubert to confirm if a sex tape ever existed and after a number of attempts in trying to get Lubert to respond, Lubert finally sends Ziegler an email indicating that no sex tape exists. If Ziegler is telling the truth (no reason to expect he isn't), where did this whole sex tape story come from and what role did Ira Lubert play in disseminating it? I find it a very bizarre story.

As a side note, Ziegler discusses the pennlawfumble article and indicates it was written by a prominent lawyer in Northern California, but he does not appear to know who it is. He relays an interesting story that he spoke to Dick Vermeil about the whole Sandusky case and Vermeil (who wrote the introduction to Sanduskys book) told Ziegler that Herman Edwards mentioned to Vermeil a while back that there was a lawyer in California that was going to blow the whole case against Sandusky wide open. So according to Ziegler, Edwards knows who the lawyer is who wrote the article. Ziegler attributes this to Edwards being from California, but he gets it wrong when he indicates Edwards attended Cal – Edwards attended San Diego State (he is from Monterey though). Just found it interesting that Herman Edwards of all people is linked into this whole mess.

Herm Edwards went to Cal Berkely in 1972 & 1974

 

[Marshall30]

It takes some doing to build a shack, any idiot can tear down a palace. I am referring to many posts above criticizing the work of John Ziegler. JZ has done an outstanding research with dogged determination. Other than the Ray Blehar nobody else even comes close to what JZ has unearthed.

Search for truth continues!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Yep --- Ziegler's crazy but him mixing up San Diego State and Cal is no big deal.

Besides San Diego State and University of San Diego, there's a 3rd school down there. University of California, San Diego (UC-San Diego). D-2 athletics but a very good academic school. AAU member.

Also a cool nickname: the Tritons.

Actually Cal does exist in San Diego. UCSD. Then there is SDSU and finally USD where Harbaugh coached. 3 separate schools in 3 different locations.

 

[BobPSU92]

The UC school system is constantly confused with the Cal State school system. I believe that Berkley (UC Berkley) is a private university but am not sure if UCLA is private. They all seem the same to most outsiders.

All of the UC schools are public.

 

[BobPSU92]

San Diego State is also known as "CAL State - San Diego". Some people contract it to Cal San Diego or Cal SD. Occasionally, it could be referred to as Cal if someone was trying to be brief or tweeeting.

That is problematic for a number of reasons, one of which being that UC-San Diego and SDSU are very different academically.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

All we need are two nihilistic detectives and a cosmic horror component and we have all the elements for True Detective Season 3. Seriously, this is insane.

 

[robbrunskill]

All we need are two nihilistic detectives and a cosmic horror component and we have all the elements for True Detective Season 3. Seriously, this is insane.

It seems as if the horror component is already there waiting for the light of day to be shone on it. Strange how life imitates art sometimes with greed, political corruption and perversions interwoven.