Brian Kelly went undefeated at Cincy....Narducci will never come close to an undefeated season at Pitt.
FC: Ohio State coach Urban Meyer plans to step down
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When Tressel was coach, he told all players who would be drafted in the 1st round that they had to leave OSU for the NFL. Compare that Mark Sanchez and Pete Carroll who tried to convince Sanchez to stay although he would have been drafted in the first round. Even though Nick Bosa left OSU for the draft following his injury, his parents spoke very highly of Meyer. Joe Burrow since leaving OSU has also been very complimentary. Both Tressel and Meyer put the players first.
Ryan Day looks absolutely Fickell-esque to me. I’d be in mourning if I was an OSU fan.
In this era, there’s been Saban and Meyer, and there’s everyone else. Huge loss for the Buckeyes.
In this era, there’s been Saban and Meyer, and there’s everyone else. Huge loss for the Buckeyes.
My mistake..,NCAA does not control this..but something drastic will have to happen to effect change.,, it is all about the $$$$ ... so hard to work out various scsenarios with the Bowls unless there is a big win for them..
The odds of Day being the second best coach in college football next season are very low.
These are the OSU fans that crack me up and spoil the reputation of the rational fans. Someone else said it perfectly...BEST CASE scenario, Day ends up being equal to Urban. That seems unlikely. People that have never been a head coach don't just instantly become on the same level as Saban. So odds are there will be some sort of drop off. Ohio State is still a hugely successful football factory - they are still going to be really good regardless. But to pretend they just keep humming along at Urban Meyer level or higher is foolish. They are still trying to find a coach to replace him down in Florida.
I'm really surprised they are going with an on-the-job training coach again instead of getting someone that has proven they can run a program already.
Funny, the OSU and and MSU scandals were way worse, and the "PSU scandal" was non-existent... yet the MSU/OSU repercussions were pretty much non-existent, and PSU got hammered.
There’s a great USATODAY article just put on their web site saying Urby should have resigned months ago. Fun read!
If someone would LINK it here for the Board, thank you!
If someone would LINK it here for the Board, thank you!
The Nassar situation at MSU was MUCH worse that what happened at PSU. A lot of athletes/victims reported abuse directly to MSU administrators. NONE of JS's victims reported anything to PSU officials. All PSU administrators got was a second hand report where MM was unsure about what he witnessed. The two cases are not even comparable yet PSU is the school that got hammered.
The reason is that the PSU BOT decided to throw their own people under the bus (without an investigation) instead of defending the honor of the university. The media created a huge payday for themselves since Joe Paterno's name was attached to the mess and the NCAA folded to public pressure.
One thing I'll say about all three scandals is that I seriously doubt that administrators at any of the schools knowingly and intentionally allowed victims to be assaulted. Why would they do that? I'm not defending the administrators. I think they failed miserably. I just think that they failed to fully appreciate what was happening.
I wish him all the best and sincerely hope the medical issues he's experienced this year will be resolved.
If he's OK physically, he can write his own ticket. Broadcasting. Coaching. Whatever.
In any case, I'm glad not to have him on the Buckeye sidelines anymore. Because there will be a fall-off, whether big or small, in both recruiting and team performance after a great recruiter and coach like Meyer leaves a program.
And one of the big beneficiaries of that fall-off will be Penn State.
Great write up from Bleacher Report
Urban Meyer Leaves Another Program Disgraced—and It Won't Be His Last
MATT HAYESDECEMBER 4, 2018
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Take a deep breath, everyone. We'll get through this shocking revelation, this can't-be-true moment, together.
Urban Meyer has retired. Again.
Meyer proclaimed Tuesday that he's leaving Ohio State because of health issues, and that he's done coaching. It's the same thing he said eight years agoafter walking away from Florida.
Back then, in 2010, he walked away from a program cratered with entitlement run amok, roster manipulation, a drug problem in the locker room and more than 30 player arrests in six seasons.
On Tuesday, he walked away from a program that has had a brutal season off the field, including revelations of the reckless enabling of former assistant coach Zach Smith, whose alleged domestic violence (among other nefarious issues) while working for Meyer at both Florida and Ohio State left an indelible shame stain for all to see on one of the greatest coaches in the history of the sport.
The next big question: Who takes a chance on Meyer when he wants back in?
If you think Meyer, the most competitive, win-at-all-costs football coach of our generation, will just walk away at 54 years young, you're the same person who believes he's as pure and true as the Pope he's named after.
Any number of jobs could be available for the 2020 season, and a year away from the grind will allow Meyer to get well (he has been dealing with an arachnoid cyst in his brain since the early 1990s), recharge and reorganize his life.
Forget about the NFL. Meyer's rah-rah, psychological motivation won't work on grown men. It will, however, work at the highest level of college football.
But if you're USC, Auburn, Florida State or any other major program, are you willing to sell your souls for championships, knowing full well the future collateral damage?
Do you hire a coach who allegedly hid drug-test failures on the Florida sideline by having players wear walking boots so it looked like they were injured?
Do you hire a coach who proclaims respecting women is his No. 1 priority but allows star tailback Carlos Hyde to return to the team after just a three-game suspension when video evidence showed Hyde slapping a woman at a bar?
Do you hire a coach who did nothing after a star player (Percy Harvin) allegedly attacked one of his assistant coaches at Florida?
Do you hire a coach who had to visit a player's family in the middle of the season to make it right with them because he created an environment where an assistant, Smith, allegedly got into an altercation with the player, Trevon Grimes, and used a racial slur?
I know, I know. All in the past. All justallegations. And Meyer denies it all.
Because what would make anyone doubt the honesty of a coach who was caught lying by an Ohio State committee investigating the enabling of Smith? Who deleted texts on his phone prior to investigators searching it for clues? Who told investigators he met with Smith's wife in 2009 and she recanted domestic abuse claims, even though Smith himself told the committee that Meyer didn't meet with her? Who would cook up a story about flying down to Florida five days before a Big Ten road game to see Grimes' sick mother out of the goodness of his heart—not because he was concerned a damaging story would get out?
At what point do college presidents see Meyer for what he is: a helluva football coach with a win-at-all-costs mentality who dangerously blurs the line between righteous and renegade?
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Meyer doesn't lie. He misrepresentsfacts.
He doesn't know about damaging details. He forgets them.
He doesn't delete text messages. He just asks his director of football operations how one would, you know, clear old texts messages, if one wanted to?
He doesn't fly down to Florida in the middle of the season to make a deal with a backup freshman wide receiver who has three career catches. He travels to Florida to comfort a sick mother.
Ohio State knew all of this in August and still chose to slap Meyer on the wrist with a three-game suspension instead of ripping off the bandage and firing him.
The old coaching adage is that a team is a reflection of its coach. Well, a university is, too. A three-game suspension, and back on the horse.
If we don't learn from history, we're doomed to watch Meyer build a program of preferential treatment at Florida with what he called his "Circle of Trust," then move to Ohio State and do the same damn thing with his—ready for it?—"Brotherhood of Trust," all over again somewhere else.
Wash, rinse, repeat. Who's next?
The clock started ticking on Meyer's latest exit once he sat through the uncomfortable suspension press conference in August, dripping with defiance and using forced, uncomfortable apologies. Then last month, Meyer told reporters that headaches he gets from the cyst have become an issue, but that he loves Ohio State and he wanted to coach the Buckeyes "as long as I can."
Let me be the first to translate that for you: He has worn out his welcome in Columbus, and he knows it.
It took six years at Florida. It took seven at Ohio State. He seems to have a bad locker room now (why else would star defensive end Nick Bosa not even hang around to support his teammates while recovering from a core injury and work out at the finest facilities in college football?), like he had a bad locker room when he left Gainesville after the 2010 season.
So now Meyer is retiring and wants to get healthy and spend more time with his family (sound familiar?). He'll sit out a season and do some television work, and a big job will open up.
Then what? We'll breathe deep and get through that shocking, can't-be-true revelation together.
Again.
Matt Hayes covers college football for Bleacher Report. Foll
actually a huge loss for the BIG conference, and honestly brought the entire division up a notch.
agree - and personally I am not happy to see Urban go. he raised everyone and neutralized a total wacko of a person at UM. this may turn out to be even more serious than portrayed. i find any coach currently trying to poach tOSU players to be sleezy.
Coaches have $5m+ salaries riding on their recruiting success. This makes a lot of them sleazy.
I guess I should have been more clear with what I was thinking.
Ryan Day may not be as good as Urban Meyer next year. But what @ivan brunetti and the rest of the Michigan faithful are really hoping for is that he's something like 30 points worse than Meyer come next November. That's what the "You hope" comment was implying.
You don’t think Meyer would be doing it if someone else that successful was retiring and he was staying?
What a bunch of crap by a lying pos. Hyde barely pushed this girl and wasn't prosecuted. There is still a Youtube video. Hyde gained 1500 yards that year and could have been in the running for a Heisman if he hadn't received substantial punishment for virtually nothing. See ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgj23776kmY (https removed to save space on comment)
Perhaps they've seen the light of Day?
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Franklin should speak to Barron and Barbour about it because they are in positions to bring it up with the powers that be. If he does, my guess is they will respond along the lines of "thank you very much, that's very nice, James" and do absolutely nothing.
Oh no, something unfair was done to osu and someone from osu didn't get a trophy. Boo f@ckin' hoo buckeye.
Dude, I graduated from Penn State. What's the truth? Who cares about the TRUTH? What a joke. You're precious man.
Well if you are not interested in the truth, and admit it, you can be safely ignored. Spout off all you want.
I agree that Penn State, and many other institutions and people get smeared by the Legacy Media and social media. I just try to do my small thing to fight obvious lies against OSU.
Interesting to note when people talk about Durkin and the death of the Maryland player (which was due to very incompetent training staff), no one mentions that the high temperature that day was 68 degrees.
I think Mike McCarthy will be the next HC of the Packers. Who is doing the picking? Where did he come from?
I never saw a temperature and when I went to national weather center, it showed high was 68. I double checked, and did see one news source mentioning 81 degrees. You are right and I was wrong. The day before was 68.
Nope...anything that makes our competitors worse helps us.
Some of these responses have been downright laughable. Trying to conclude that he only had success because of Penn State and Michigan being down must be some kind of joke. He has had success everywhere he went and if he was our Coach would have been anointed as the second coming!
Couldn’t agree more with your sentiments on those 3 coaches, and Urban. I can’t stand looking at their faces.
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