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FC:? IM Building expanding outward again towards stadium

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Not sure if this has been posted, but IM building is adding indoor turf and will be expanding towards the stadium, wiping out more tailgating spots. This will be done after the current renovations are finished, as funding was just approved.
 
I believe the renovation of the IM Building was a three-phase project, and Phase II should be wrapping up in a month or two. I'm a bit surprised to hear that Phase III is moving forward so quickly.
 
Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

I had thought it wasn't public until they received approval for the funding. Hopefully they do wait until after football season. Or they can just move handicapped parking to altoona this year.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

Hey- the athletic department said moving handicapped parking last year (to the mall IIRC) was no big deal so Altoona is just a little further. ;)

Looks like it's not too long until there's little to no green space left on campus at the building rate of the past few years.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

I never really understood the need to modernize / buildout the IM building. Is there a tangible benefit or am I just old?
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

Originally posted by jp3272:
I never really understood the need to modernize / buildout the IM building. Is there a tangible benefit or am I just old?
We want to get the best IM athletes in the country and you need first class facilities to do that. You don't get a 4 star like Jawan Jones from Philly to come and play IM basketball with what we have now.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

Penn State did a study and learned that our recreational facilities fell woefully short compared to our peers in the B1G. That led to the implementation of the student recreational facilities fee to fund improvements to the rec facilities.
 
I officiated the EIVA championships there today and staff told me

it was authorized this past week.
 
Re: I officiated the EIVA championships there today and staff told me

I don't think that is correct.
 
Maybe not. I wasn't fishing for information or anything, that's what they

told me when I asked what was happening with the expansion towards the softball field was done. They said the gym I was in was being expanded out towards the stadium for an indoor turf field and it had been approved this past week.
 
The 5-yr (2014-18) capital plan lists only phase II.

The linked Capital Plan webpage has a link to the 5-yr Project List. There's no phase III listed, only phase II. I take that to mean phase III would not start construction until after 2018 if approved.

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Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

The tangible benefit is that you're creating more "stuff" to justify the cost of undergraduate tuition (and its subsequent increases).
 
Re: Maybe not. I wasn't fishing for information or anything, that's what they

I'm not sure who you spoke with, but many rec staff people were under the impression that phase III was a done deal, but the last I heard, first hand from people who know, there is no money right now for Phase III.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

Originally posted by fairgambit:

Originally posted by jp3272:
I never really understood the need to modernize / buildout the IM building. Is there a tangible benefit or am I just old?
We want to get the best IM athletes in the country and you need first class facilities to do that. You don't get a 4 star like Jawan Jones from Philly to come and play IM basketball with what we have now.
They simply need to in order to compete with other schools for students. Penn State student recreation facilities pale in comparison to peer institutions and even to lesser institutions like IUP, Cal, Shippensburg ect. Phase 3 will not take up much room. That space wasn't even available this year.

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As a retired Director of Campus Recreation, I am responding to JP3272 and others questioning the need to expand the IM Building. There are several reasons. One responder gave a partial answer in that it is to "keep up with the Jones". The Big 10 has some best collegiate recreations programs in the country. The other reason is, that research has proven that the quality of the recreation program and recreation facilities is one of the top factors in attracting new students and retaining old students.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

Originally posted by psu00:
Hey- the athletic department said moving handicapped parking last year (to the mall IIRC) was no big deal so Altoona is just a little further. ;)

Looks like it's not too long until there's little to no green space left on campus at the building rate of the past few years.
According to a recent study, this is the projected Penn State green space for 2021.

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While I don't disagree, it is kind of insane that people are picking

their colleges and/or staying in college based upon the gyms that said college provides. Students have to pay a membership fee in addition to their tuition to belong to the weight lifting part of the IM building, do they not? I think intramurals are being severely overvalued here.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

C'mon, fairgambit and psu00, the campus looks better today than at anytime in the past 50 years. You don't get to seal the campus in amber on the day that you graduate.
 
Re: Ah, I didn't know it was previously announced that this would be done

Originally posted by Evan Ceg:
C'mon, fairgambit and psu00, the campus looks better today than at anytime in the past 50 years. You don't get to seal the campus in amber on the day that you graduate.
I will respectfully disagree. To me, it's overbuilt and looks it, but I knew that was inevitable, especially after we joined the Big Ten. In 20 years, Penn State will have a more urban look than Pitt.
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It appears that PSU has hired.......


the offspring of former 1960's era defense department chieftans to handle their strategic planning.

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