Evidence potentially pointing to voter fraud..

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again with the failure of critical thinking skills and details that would (should) make you say hmmmmm. A conspiracy this large and with this many moving parts and elements and participants would be impossible to cover. By now there would be at least dozens of participants if not more revealing themselves, looking for book deals or to clear a guilty conscience and yet, tripping p and spilling the beans........ (I will leave you to try and solve the rest of it)...........
Perfectly said: again with your failure of critical thinking skills
 
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They read these on the things on the internet and they have no idea if they are true. They just parrot them like they are facts and are vetted. Tucker would spend a month on these things if they were even remotely plausible.

Oh, they’re true NJ.
 
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Tracking devices is supposed to be culpable evidence? 1 and 1/2 years later...and still grasping at every cockamamy baseless theory. Lies, false conjecture, supposition without substance - Complete and utter BS.

Cheating is not a cockmamy baseless” theory. And we all know the Democrats cheated big time. Indiscriminate mass mail in balloting and a massive ballot harvesting campaign in key Democrat controlled states and districts got Mr. Potato Head into the WH and gave Democrats control of Congress as well. Hard to argue that the Democrats cheated. That’s what they have always tried to do.
 

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Cheating is not a cockmamy baseless” theory. And we all know the Democrats cheated big time. Indiscriminate mass mail in balloting and a massive ballot harvesting campaign in key Democrat controlled states and districts got Mr. Potato Head into the WH and gave Democrats control of Congress as well. Hard to argue that the Democrats cheated. That’s what they have always tried to do.
Just how do "we all know the Democrats cheated big time"? Huh? You got pictures? Video? Multiple witness testimony, corroborated by other evidence? NO! YOU GOT NOTHING!!!
Just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it happened. Stop with the lunacy and lying.
 
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Just how do "we all know the Democrats cheated big time"? Huh? You got pictures? Video? Multiple witness testimony, corroborated by other evidence? NO! YOU GOT NOTHING!!!
Just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it happened. Stop with the lunacy and lying.

You damn well know they cheated. Stop trying to defend the indefensible, you cheater.
 
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Catherine Engelbrecht, of True the Vote, told committee members that the combination of the legally questionable drop boxes and Wisconsin’s dirty voters rolls led to opportunities for widespread manipulation.
We’re not suggesting the ballots cast were illegal ballots; we are saying the ballots were abused,”
Questionable yes, illegal ????
 

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Just how do "we all know the Democrats cheated big time"? Huh? You got pictures? Video? Multiple witness testimony, corroborated by other evidence? NO! YOU GOT NOTHING!!!
Just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it happened. Stop with the lunacy and lying.
He's just butt hurt. Give him a break. He has to walk to work and eat ramen noodles because Biden made the price of gas go up :rolleyes:
 

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Pretty much all of mainstream media and every big tech company conspired to bury the Hunter/Joe Biden corruption. Why would anyone be foolish enough to think election fraud couldn’t take place?
 
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Well it is standard for them to make voting less secure, why? These idiots never can answer honestly.
There's not a single one I think is decent . They're either stupid, crooked, or both. I can give you a name of an investigator for Amistad who I know personally.
 
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Not butt hurt one bit. Just pointing out massive voter fraud and cheating by Democrats.
That is supposition not proof. Trump knew he was going to lose. He planted the seed long before election day and you Trumpers lapped it up.

 

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MADISON — Absentee ballot drop boxes, which exploded in use in 2020 amid COVID-19 concerns, were a potential beehive of “organized crime,” voting integrity activists told the Assembly Campaign and Elections Committee at a hearing Thursday.

Texas-based True the Vote worked with contractor VoteStand in tracking the cellphone data points at and around drop boxes in Milwaukee, Green Bay and Racine in the weeks leading up to the 2020 presidential election (Oct. 20 to Nov. 3). The individuals also were tracked to liberal nongovernmental organizations — often to and from the offices and the ballot drop boxes.

Using geospatial technology, they tracked 138 unique devices (individuals) that went to drop boxes in the three cities more than 3,500 times. Ultimately, the exhaustive analysis showed 7 percent of Wisconsin’s 1.9 million mail-in ballots were “trafficked” by ballot harvesters. That number held up in every battleground state the voter integrity groups examined.

“This is a number that should concern everyone, There were 4.8 million votes cast nationally in this fashion,” Gregg Phillips, founder of VoteStand, testified.

“If you consider that some of the elections in some of the states were pretty close, it really is troubling that this could have happened … It’s an organized crime that was perpetrated on America.”

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The analysis also found that 14 of the targeted devices were at one or more of the violent riots that occurred in Wisconsin in the summer of 2020.
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Catherine Engelbrecht, of True the Vote, told committee members that the combination of the legally questionable drop boxes and Wisconsin’s dirty voters rolls led to opportunities for widespread manipulation.
“We’re not suggesting the ballots cast were illegal ballots; we are saying the ballots were abused,” she said. “And this kind of abuse is pervasive in our most vulnerable communities.”
Engelbrecht recommends the Legislature:
— Commit to clean voter rolls and real-time technology. Outdated voter registration is “the gateway to all the fraud.”
— More clearly define ballot harvesting in state laws. That includes banning ballot harvesting events like Madison’s Democracy in the Park.
— Stop private funding for elections (Zuckbucks)
— Make penalties for cheating something cheaters fear.
And “completely banning the ballot drop boxes would be a good start,” Phillips said.
A lawsuit on that very issue is now before the Wisconsin Supreme Court. On Thursday, the Republican Party of Wisconsin and the Republican National Committee filed a brief in the case opposing the use of drop boxes, which the lawsuit argues are illegal under current state law.
“Wisconsin has clear laws against ballot harvesting, but activist members of the unelected Wisconsin Election Commission disregarded them in the 2020 election. Republicans will not allow such un-democratic attacks on election integrity to go unchallenged,” said RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
Campaign and Elections Committee member Rep. Donna Rozar (R-Marshfield) said the Republican-led Legislature has tried to tighten election security and expand transparency.
“Many of the election bills we passed were vetoed by the governor,” the lawmaker said.
Gov. Tony Evers is expected to veto several recently passed election reform bills in the coming days.
True the Vote joined forces with conservative filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza in producing a documentary exposing, among other things, the complete lack of security around the ballot drop boxes that became so prevalent during the pandemic.
Watch the trailer for 2000 Mules, D’Souza’s documentary, here.



As a reminder, it’s been 1.5 years since the election and the only fraud that’s been found is from Republicans…
 
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That is supposition not proof. Trump knew he was going to lose. He planted the seed long before election day and you Trumpers lapped it up.

It makes sense on the surface, too many anomalies that never happened prior to this. If they were breaking the opposite way 50/50, maybe it was legit. But nope. And again you post some video, I talked to a guy I know personally who worked for Amistad, he found multiple abandoned properties with multiple voters registered to these addresses. No one was living there, let alone 50 plus people ( in a shack).
Add in the geo location on certain phones listed in the articles points to it. Cell phones don't stop pinging towers in case you didn't know?
 
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I am more offended by how ham fisted, clumsy, and audacious the fraud to elect him is than the idea of Joe Biden being president. I think Joe Biden is a corrupt idiot, however, I think America would survive him like we’ve survived previous idiot administrations. However, what is potentially fatal for America is half the populace believing that their elections are hopelessly rigged and they’re eternally ****ed. And now, however this shakes out in court, that’s exactly what half the country is going to think.
People are pissed off, and rightfully so.
Before I became a novelist I was an accountant. In auditing you look for red flags. That’s weird bits in the data that suggest something shifty is going on. You flag those weird things so you can delve into them further. One flag doesn’t necessarily mean there’s fraud. Weird things happen. A few flags mean stupidity or dishonesty. But a giant pile of red flags means that there’s bad shit going on and people should be in jail.
Except for in politics, where apparently all you have to do to dismiss a bunch of red flag is be a democrat and mumble something about “fascist voter suppression” then you can do all sorts of blatant crime and get off.
I’ve been trying to keep up with the firehose of information about what’s going on during this cluster**** of an election. Last night I was on Facebook talking about the crazy high, 3rd world dictatorship level voter turnout levels in the deep blue areas of these swing states was very suspicious. Somebody gas lighted me about how “I’d have to do better than that”, so this was my quick reply, listing off the questionable bullshit I could think of off the top of my head:
The massive turn out alone is a red flag.
But as for doing better…
The late night spikes that were enough to close all the Trump leads are a red flag.
The statistically impossible breakdown of the ratios of these vote dumps is a red flag.
The ratios of these dumps being far better than the percentages in the bluest of blue cities, even though the historical data does not match, red flag.
The ratios of these vote dumps favoring Biden more in these few battlegrounds than the ratio for the rest of the country (even the bluest of the blue) red flag.
Biden outperforming Obama among these few urban vote dumps, even though Trump picked up points in every demographic group in the rest of the country, red flag.
The poll observers being removed. Red flag.
The counters cheering as GOP observers are removed, red flag.
The fact that the dem observers outnumber the GOP observers 3 to 1, red flag (and basis of the first lawsuit filed)
The electioneering at the polls (on video), red flag.
The willful violation of the court order requiring the separation of ballots by type, red flag.
USPS whistleblower reporting to the Inspector General that today they were ordered to backdate ballots to yesterday, red flag.
The video of 2 AM deliveries of what appear to be boxes of ballots with no chain of custody or other observers right before the late night miracle spikes, red flag.
Any of those things would be enough to trigger an audit in the normal world. This many flags and I’d be giggling in anticipation of catching some thieves.
And it isn’t that I have to do better. I’m just an gen pop observer who happens to be a retired auditor with a finely tuned bullshit detector. This is going to the courts.

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So now I want to delve into some of these some more. The problem is that there’s a ton of info swirling around, some good, some crap. It doesn’t help that reporters are usually dishonest or not very bright and absolute trash at presenting data. Part of our problem is Big Tech is actively stomping on stories that make their guy look bad. (while compiling these I discovered that several of the links I’d looked at yesterday had been vanished by Facebook or Twitter)
For the last four years half the country was all “Trump is illegitimate! He’s not my president! He stole the election!” so on and so forth, and that was all based upon nebulous ideas about “Russian Interference”, The Russian Interference mostly boiled down to them buying ads on Facebook, or having fake bots trolling on Twitter last time. This time the actual giant megacorporations, Facebook, Twitter, and Google themselves have actively censored stories in order to protect their candidate. So you think after this pile of suspicious election cluster****s that makes the game look totally rigged, the other half of the country is going to accept Joe Biden as legitimate? Oh hell no.
When you are auditing you see mistakes happen all the time. Humans make errors. Except in real life, mistakes usually go in different directions. When all the mistakes go in the same direction and benefit the same parties, they probably aren’t mistakes. They’re malfeasance.
Let’s go back a bit to before election day to see why people would be suspicious that the game has been rigged.
Most of the mainstream polls were utter garbage, off by what I believe to be the largest amounts ever in all of American history. Of course, this thing that surely demoralized the right and helped the left raise funds was just an innocent sampling error rather than a purposeful sampling bias… uh huh.
Then in the weeks leading up to the election, Big Tech and the media had a concentrated censorship effort to stop what was probably the juiciest October Surprise in modern history. But them silencing major newspapers and US Senators was just a mistake in their innocent efforts to “fact check”.
Then on election day, states like Florida that were obviously swinging hard for Trump with no possible mathematical way for Biden to come back, the news wouldn’t call for Trump. States where it was still clearly up in the air just based on even the most cursory of statistical analysis (Arizona) they called for Biden ASAP. But that was just innocent mistakes, and not an attempt to set the narrative of inevitable Biden victory by major media.
When Trump pulled ahead in the midwestern swing states by what were starting to appear to be insurmountable amounts, they suddenly threw the brakes on the counts. (my favorite part of this was when it looked like Trump was going to win, the Chinese Yaun crashed, which is pretty telling about just how shitty a candidate Joe Biden is) Okay, suddenly stopping all those counts seemed a little weird, but most of America went to bed thinking that this was a close race, with Trump in the lead in the EC.
Then we woke up in the morning, and everybody saw the 538 graphs showing a massive middle of the night spike for Joe Biden, with almost zilch in corresponding votes for Trump.
Now, one of those got walked back as “typo”. (again, funny how all these “mistakes” keep going in one direction) but the damage was already done, and all of a sudden most of America was paying a whole lot more attention to places like Wisconsin and Michigan than we usually do. That’s how flags work. And it turned out that single six figure typo was only one of many statistically improbable Biden vote dumps to come.
Now, all of my liberal acquaintances were quick to dismiss these, with some gas lighting about how it was just deep blue inner cities votes coming in, and of obviously they’re going to vote for Joe Biden… Except that is them deliberately missing the point. It isn’t that Biden won those, it is that he won them with statistically improbable amounts.
I don’t know what the current numbers are now, but as of yesterday morning the Wisconsin Midnight Mystery Dump was something like 98.4% for Joe Biden. That’s better than the bluest of blue cities manage. That’s better than Biden did in DC. I saw one 28k dump yesterday (I want to say it was 538 talking about PA) that was listed as ALL for Biden. That’s basically statistically impossible.
In a small populace, you can get 100% of the vote. However the larger the sample, the more likely there will be dissenting votes. Even in the bluest of blue areas or reddest of red areas, somebody is going to be a cranky dissident, or an old person is going to fill in the wrong circle. When you get into the hundreds or thousands yet maintain that kind of perfect ratio, basically impossible.
Plus we are supposed to believe that Joe Biden, the guy barely campaigned, who got like 12 sad looking people to his rallies, was more popular than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? This election was just that much more special? Uh huh… Except that these few battleground state blue cities vote ratios don’t match up with other blue cities around America, where it appears Trump’s support among every demographic group other than white males went UP.
Then people were quick to dismiss these statistically improbable spikes with “of course the mail in voting favors Biden, republicans vote in person.” Yes, but they don’t favor Biden with these kind of ratios anywhere else in America. The ratios are more like 60-40 or 70-30. But 97-3? Oh **** no. So either Biden is a better campaigner to the inner cities (though he rarely left his basement) than the eloquent messianic figure of Barack Obama, or there’s something fishy going on here.
Now, as a suspicious auditor type who spent a lot of hours looking for ****ery in complex systems, my gut tells me fake ballots were getting dumped into the system to make up the difference. And oh look, here is a giant pile of red flags indicating that’s the case.
Yesterday there was a meme going around about how Wisconsin had something like 90% voter turnout, and how this was 20 points higher than usual, and it how it would also be one of the highest voter turnouts in all of American history. If Wisconsin was at 90% that beats the highest national number in all of American history by EIGHT points. And that was 1876 (which was legendarily fraudulent by the way).

Except, this is the problem with using memes to make your argument, it was only partially accurate, and the previous Wisconsin numbers were cited one way, and the current year was calculated a different way. (don’t feel bad, I fell for that one too, and as an accountant, that’s SO ANNOYING). When most people think of voter turnout, they think what percent of registered voters vote. But because Wisconsin has same day voting (a gift for fraudsters) their prior year percentages were votes compared to eligible population (that’s so goofy). But it meant the meme was comparing apples to oranges. So the leftists immediately jumped on that error to dismiss the idea that there was anything weird about how many people turned out to vote this time.
HOWEVER, that’s useless obfuscation. Because if you calculate the number the same way that most Americans do, their turn out was still like 90%, which is a rate normally reserved for dictators (that combined with the vote ratios would have made Saddam Hussein blush). I had one liberal guy point out that notoriously corrupt Seattle also gets 90%… which doesn’t exactly help his case.
Because here’s the kicker, the high turn out is the average for the state, but when you drill down on the source of these statistically improbable blue vote dumps, they’ve got districts with TWO HUNDRED PERCENT TURN OUT. That’s over 200%. There’s 7 over 100%, and a ton of them in the 90s. https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564...gistered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

Now the quick liberal dismiss explanation for this is that Wisconsin has same day registration (again, a fraudsters dream) and thousands of people ignored months of TV and social media beating them over the head to get registered to vote, and just decided to do it at the last minute because Biden is just that awesome/Trump is just that bad.
Except if you’re an auditor, when you see super suspicious spikes like that in certain places, the first thing we think is that’s the place where you’ve got somebody over the controls colluding. So that’s where you go to fabricate your bullshit.
200% turn out is ****ing insane. Same day voting or not. That’s madness. When I was looking into this stuff I pulled a HuffPo article about the 2012 election and how it was controversial that some Madison ward had gotten 119% turnout.
Oh, but wait, there’s more.
A whistleblower has come forward from a Michigan post office saying that they were given ballots on November 4th, and ordered to post mark them to election day so they would still be valid. That is so insanely illegal. When the reporter called the postal supervisor who gave the order and asked about it, he immediately hung up.
Now, on this one, liberals were quick to dismiss it because it was from Project Veritas. (who they hate, and say cherry picks their investigative reporting, yet they keep winning all the lawsuits against them) However, the very next video was the response from the US Postal Inspector General (or whatever his title is, I can’t remember) about how they are investigating, so this wasn’t just some crank going to a reporter, it’s been passed up the chain of command. It’s an actual whistle blower.
I had someone else try to dismiss this one as innocent, because the post office accepting these late ballots had no way of knowing who they voted for so it would balance out. That’s is so naïve its cute. Of course they knew who the ballots were for. They were probably dropped off by people they were colluding with. You don’t commit felonies for clueless strangers because you feel sorry they got their votes in late.
A quick note on collusion because I mentioned it a couple times now. Collusion is the key to successful fraud. Systems have controls and checks in places, so the best way to circumvent them is to team up with somebody over one of those controls and exploit the gap. That’s fraud 101. Which is why you go to the post office your buddy runs to drop off your illegal late emergency Save Biden ballots. Or you go to the ward your buddy the poll worker is running the log in book to same day register all your imaginary friends.
Speaking of the imaginary vote, this one is actually hilarious. Democrats are quick to say all votes must count, which apparently includes people who are 118 years old. All those little fraud schemes come in from various directions, except the fraud numbers add up quick in a tight race. However, if you are behind by hundreds of thousands of votes in the middle of the night it requires some audacious level ****ery, which brings us to a red flag you can see from space. The 4 AM Biden Miracle. Here is an account from somebody at the counting center.
This is the third link I’ve had to pull for this one, because Facebook keeps killing the others. Listen to the whole thing. Because after the statistically impossible votes came in, they had to toss a bunch of the GOP judges out of the building because of Covid.
Remember what I said about collusion? If you’ve got the actual system with the controls on your side, you can basically do any outlandish bullshit you feel like, and the only way you are going to get stopped is by an outside power (hence the multitude of lawsuits we’re going to see over the next few days).
Another thing you learn to spot when people are fraudulently manipulating data, is the mission-oriented spikes. On this one I’ve seen a few links, but the data has been so in flux that I’ve not been able to confirm it, but supposedly a bunch of the sudden Biden spikes weren’t just statistically improbable, they also voted for president but not the down ballot races. Now, lots of people will vote for president but don’t care about down ballot. However, when you get a pile of those in a row, that suggests somebody in a hurry filling out the mission critical bubble and then moving down stack, assembly line style.
There was also video taken of one guy delivering these mystery ballots to the counting center in the middle of the night (unloading them from a white van into a little red wagon) the link I used yesterday had been deleted by YouTube but I found this new one (can’t stop the signal, Mal) Gee whiz. I can’t imagine why mysterious boxes are being moved into this supposedly secure voting facility in the middle of the night with no observers or chain of custody.
And there’s more. They just keep coming. Yesterday morning I saw a small article about a republican official calling shenanigans on the voting in his small county, which went overwhelmingly Trump last time, and how it appeared the votes tallied weren’t even enough to account for his immediate family. Of course he got laughed at by caring liberals. Fast forward a few hours and it turns out that the voting program was faulty. https://www.westernjournal.com/elec...didate-33-mi-counties-thought-using-software/
Worse, the same broken ass software was apparently used in 33 other counties. Hmmm… Again, with all these magical errors in these swing states all going in one side’s favor.
Then there’s SharpieGate, but I’ve heard so much conflicting stuff about that one, with sharpies actually working fine in the scantron machines, that I’m not putting much stock in that one yet. There’s a lawsuit already though, so it’ll be interesting to see what new information comes out.
Here’s another thing you learn about auditing. The more chaotic the system, the more chances for fraud. So when you come across a system that is extra chaotic on purpose, that tells you that the people running it want it that way for a reason.
And the flags just keep coming in. This is going to be way worse than Florida in 2000.
What happens now? Beats me. It goes to court, and then the real question becomes how much spine the republicans have to actually fight. In previous years I’d assume they’d be a bunch of spineless chickenshits and wimp out like usual, but I’m not so sure this time. I don’t know if or how any of these will pan out, and without access to the real data, all I can do is guess.
I can say without hesitation though, that ****ery is afoot, and if an actual real investigation happens they’ll be able to prove it. Only this is politics, so who knows. The only thing I do know for certain is that this election is so ****ed up it is just going to make America’s two halves hate each other even more.
Update: I did a part 2 https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/09/election-2020-the-more-****ery-update/
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Not that certain people will read it, however it goes like this, first you observe anomalies, red flags, then you start digging. You don't have taxpayers audit their own returns, an outside agency does. Recounting potential fraudulent votes by those who possibly cheated will not get down to the truth.
You need the raw data, and in many cases that was thrown out in these cases. Try doing that with the IRS and see what happens.
Try doing that with mobile devices and your email servers if you're a Democrat appointed Secretary of State. Oh I'm sorry, that's a poor example. Or maybe not?
 

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THE 2020 ELECTION: ****ERY IS AFOOT​

NOVEMBER 5, 2020 CORREIA45 683 COMMENTS
I am more offended by how ham fisted, clumsy, and audacious the fraud to elect him is than the idea of Joe Biden being president. I think Joe Biden is a corrupt idiot, however, I think America would survive him like we’ve survived previous idiot administrations. However, what is potentially fatal for America is half the populace believing that their elections are hopelessly rigged and they’re eternally ****ed. And now, however this shakes out in court, that’s exactly what half the country is going to think.
People are pissed off, and rightfully so.
Before I became a novelist I was an accountant. In auditing you look for red flags. That’s weird bits in the data that suggest something shifty is going on. You flag those weird things so you can delve into them further. One flag doesn’t necessarily mean there’s fraud. Weird things happen. A few flags mean stupidity or dishonesty. But a giant pile of red flags means that there’s bad shit going on and people should be in jail.
Except for in politics, where apparently all you have to do to dismiss a bunch of red flag is be a democrat and mumble something about “fascist voter suppression” then you can do all sorts of blatant crime and get off.
I’ve been trying to keep up with the firehose of information about what’s going on during this cluster**** of an election. Last night I was on Facebook talking about the crazy high, 3rd world dictatorship level voter turnout levels in the deep blue areas of these swing states was very suspicious. Somebody gas lighted me about how “I’d have to do better than that”, so this was my quick reply, listing off the questionable bullshit I could think of off the top of my head:
The massive turn out alone is a red flag.
But as for doing better…
The late night spikes that were enough to close all the Trump leads are a red flag.
The statistically impossible breakdown of the ratios of these vote dumps is a red flag.
The ratios of these dumps being far better than the percentages in the bluest of blue cities, even though the historical data does not match, red flag.
The ratios of these vote dumps favoring Biden more in these few battlegrounds than the ratio for the rest of the country (even the bluest of the blue) red flag.
Biden outperforming Obama among these few urban vote dumps, even though Trump picked up points in every demographic group in the rest of the country, red flag.
The poll observers being removed. Red flag.
The counters cheering as GOP observers are removed, red flag.
The fact that the dem observers outnumber the GOP observers 3 to 1, red flag (and basis of the first lawsuit filed)
The electioneering at the polls (on video), red flag.
The willful violation of the court order requiring the separation of ballots by type, red flag.
USPS whistleblower reporting to the Inspector General that today they were ordered to backdate ballots to yesterday, red flag.
The video of 2 AM deliveries of what appear to be boxes of ballots with no chain of custody or other observers right before the late night miracle spikes, red flag.
Any of those things would be enough to trigger an audit in the normal world. This many flags and I’d be giggling in anticipation of catching some thieves.
And it isn’t that I have to do better. I’m just an gen pop observer who happens to be a retired auditor with a finely tuned bullshit detector. This is going to the courts.

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So now I want to delve into some of these some more. The problem is that there’s a ton of info swirling around, some good, some crap. It doesn’t help that reporters are usually dishonest or not very bright and absolute trash at presenting data. Part of our problem is Big Tech is actively stomping on stories that make their guy look bad. (while compiling these I discovered that several of the links I’d looked at yesterday had been vanished by Facebook or Twitter)
For the last four years half the country was all “Trump is illegitimate! He’s not my president! He stole the election!” so on and so forth, and that was all based upon nebulous ideas about “Russian Interference”, The Russian Interference mostly boiled down to them buying ads on Facebook, or having fake bots trolling on Twitter last time. This time the actual giant megacorporations, Facebook, Twitter, and Google themselves have actively censored stories in order to protect their candidate. So you think after this pile of suspicious election cluster****s that makes the game look totally rigged, the other half of the country is going to accept Joe Biden as legitimate? Oh hell no.
When you are auditing you see mistakes happen all the time. Humans make errors. Except in real life, mistakes usually go in different directions. When all the mistakes go in the same direction and benefit the same parties, they probably aren’t mistakes. They’re malfeasance.
Let’s go back a bit to before election day to see why people would be suspicious that the game has been rigged.
Most of the mainstream polls were utter garbage, off by what I believe to be the largest amounts ever in all of American history. Of course, this thing that surely demoralized the right and helped the left raise funds was just an innocent sampling error rather than a purposeful sampling bias… uh huh.
Then in the weeks leading up to the election, Big Tech and the media had a concentrated censorship effort to stop what was probably the juiciest October Surprise in modern history. But them silencing major newspapers and US Senators was just a mistake in their innocent efforts to “fact check”.
Then on election day, states like Florida that were obviously swinging hard for Trump with no possible mathematical way for Biden to come back, the news wouldn’t call for Trump. States where it was still clearly up in the air just based on even the most cursory of statistical analysis (Arizona) they called for Biden ASAP. But that was just innocent mistakes, and not an attempt to set the narrative of inevitable Biden victory by major media.
When Trump pulled ahead in the midwestern swing states by what were starting to appear to be insurmountable amounts, they suddenly threw the brakes on the counts. (my favorite part of this was when it looked like Trump was going to win, the Chinese Yaun crashed, which is pretty telling about just how shitty a candidate Joe Biden is) Okay, suddenly stopping all those counts seemed a little weird, but most of America went to bed thinking that this was a close race, with Trump in the lead in the EC.
Then we woke up in the morning, and everybody saw the 538 graphs showing a massive middle of the night spike for Joe Biden, with almost zilch in corresponding votes for Trump.
Now, one of those got walked back as “typo”. (again, funny how all these “mistakes” keep going in one direction) but the damage was already done, and all of a sudden most of America was paying a whole lot more attention to places like Wisconsin and Michigan than we usually do. That’s how flags work. And it turned out that single six figure typo was only one of many statistically improbable Biden vote dumps to come.
Now, all of my liberal acquaintances were quick to dismiss these, with some gas lighting about how it was just deep blue inner cities votes coming in, and of obviously they’re going to vote for Joe Biden… Except that is them deliberately missing the point. It isn’t that Biden won those, it is that he won them with statistically improbable amounts.
I don’t know what the current numbers are now, but as of yesterday morning the Wisconsin Midnight Mystery Dump was something like 98.4% for Joe Biden. That’s better than the bluest of blue cities manage. That’s better than Biden did in DC. I saw one 28k dump yesterday (I want to say it was 538 talking about PA) that was listed as ALL for Biden. That’s basically statistically impossible.
In a small populace, you can get 100% of the vote. However the larger the sample, the more likely there will be dissenting votes. Even in the bluest of blue areas or reddest of red areas, somebody is going to be a cranky dissident, or an old person is going to fill in the wrong circle. When you get into the hundreds or thousands yet maintain that kind of perfect ratio, basically impossible.
Plus we are supposed to believe that Joe Biden, the guy barely campaigned, who got like 12 sad looking people to his rallies, was more popular than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? This election was just that much more special? Uh huh… Except that these few battleground state blue cities vote ratios don’t match up with other blue cities around America, where it appears Trump’s support among every demographic group other than white males went UP.
Then people were quick to dismiss these statistically improbable spikes with “of course the mail in voting favors Biden, republicans vote in person.” Yes, but they don’t favor Biden with these kind of ratios anywhere else in America. The ratios are more like 60-40 or 70-30. But 97-3? Oh **** no. So either Biden is a better campaigner to the inner cities (though he rarely left his basement) than the eloquent messianic figure of Barack Obama, or there’s something fishy going on here.
Now, as a suspicious auditor type who spent a lot of hours looking for ****ery in complex systems, my gut tells me fake ballots were getting dumped into the system to make up the difference. And oh look, here is a giant pile of red flags indicating that’s the case.
Yesterday there was a meme going around about how Wisconsin had something like 90% voter turnout, and how this was 20 points higher than usual, and it how it would also be one of the highest voter turnouts in all of American history. If Wisconsin was at 90% that beats the highest national number in all of American history by EIGHT points. And that was 1876 (which was legendarily fraudulent by the way).

Except, this is the problem with using memes to make your argument, it was only partially accurate, and the previous Wisconsin numbers were cited one way, and the current year was calculated a different way. (don’t feel bad, I fell for that one too, and as an accountant, that’s SO ANNOYING). When most people think of voter turnout, they think what percent of registered voters vote. But because Wisconsin has same day voting (a gift for fraudsters) their prior year percentages were votes compared to eligible population (that’s so goofy). But it meant the meme was comparing apples to oranges. So the leftists immediately jumped on that error to dismiss the idea that there was anything weird about how many people turned out to vote this time.
HOWEVER, that’s useless obfuscation. Because if you calculate the number the same way that most Americans do, their turn out was still like 90%, which is a rate normally reserved for dictators (that combined with the vote ratios would have made Saddam Hussein blush). I had one liberal guy point out that notoriously corrupt Seattle also gets 90%… which doesn’t exactly help his case.
Because here’s the kicker, the high turn out is the average for the state, but when you drill down on the source of these statistically improbable blue vote dumps, they’ve got districts with TWO HUNDRED PERCENT TURN OUT. That’s over 200%. There’s 7 over 100%, and a ton of them in the 90s. https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564...gistered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

Now the quick liberal dismiss explanation for this is that Wisconsin has same day registration (again, a fraudsters dream) and thousands of people ignored months of TV and social media beating them over the head to get registered to vote, and just decided to do it at the last minute because Biden is just that awesome/Trump is just that bad.
Except if you’re an auditor, when you see super suspicious spikes like that in certain places, the first thing we think is that’s the place where you’ve got somebody over the controls colluding. So that’s where you go to fabricate your bullshit.
200% turn out is ****ing insane. Same day voting or not. That’s madness. When I was looking into this stuff I pulled a HuffPo article about the 2012 election and how it was controversial that some Madison ward had gotten 119% turnout.
Oh, but wait, there’s more.
A whistleblower has come forward from a Michigan post office saying that they were given ballots on November 4th, and ordered to post mark them to election day so they would still be valid.
That is so insanely illegal. When the reporter called the postal supervisor who gave the order and asked about it, he immediately hung up.
Now, on this one, liberals were quick to dismiss it because it was from Project Veritas. (who they hate, and say cherry picks their investigative reporting, yet they keep winning all the lawsuits against them) However, the very next video was the response from the US Postal Inspector General (or whatever his title is, I can’t remember) about how they are investigating, so this wasn’t just some crank going to a reporter, it’s been passed up the chain of command. It’s an actual whistle blower.
I had someone else try to dismiss this one as innocent, because the post office accepting these late ballots had no way of knowing who they voted for so it would balance out. That’s is so naïve its cute. Of course they knew who the ballots were for. They were probably dropped off by people they were colluding with. You don’t commit felonies for clueless strangers because you feel sorry they got their votes in late.
A quick note on collusion because I mentioned it a couple times now. Collusion is the key to successful fraud. Systems have controls and checks in places, so the best way to circumvent them is to team up with somebody over one of those controls and exploit the gap. That’s fraud 101. Which is why you go to the post office your buddy runs to drop off your illegal late emergency Save Biden ballots. Or you go to the ward your buddy the poll worker is running the log in book to same day register all your imaginary friends.
Speaking of the imaginary vote, this one is actually hilarious. Democrats are quick to say all votes must count, which apparently includes people who are 118 years old.
All those little fraud schemes come in from various directions, except the fraud numbers add up quick in a tight race. However, if you are behind by hundreds of thousands of votes in the middle of the night it requires some audacious level ****ery, which brings us to a red flag you can see from space. The 4 AM Biden Miracle. Here is an account from somebody at the counting center.

This is the third link I’ve had to pull for this one, because Facebook keeps killing the others. Listen to the whole thing. Because after the statistically impossible votes came in, they had to toss a bunch of the GOP judges out of the building because of Covid.
Remember what I said about collusion? If you’ve got the actual system with the controls on your side, you can basically do any outlandish bullshit you feel like, and the only way you are going to get stopped is by an outside power (hence the multitude of lawsuits we’re going to see over the next few days).
Another thing you learn to spot when people are fraudulently manipulating data, is the mission-oriented spikes. On this one I’ve seen a few links, but the data has been so in flux that I’ve not been able to confirm it, but supposedly a bunch of the sudden Biden spikes weren’t just statistically improbable, they also voted for president but not the down ballot races. Now, lots of people will vote for president but don’t care about down ballot. However, when you get a pile of those in a row, that suggests somebody in a hurry filling out the mission critical bubble and then moving down stack, assembly line style.
There was also video taken of one guy delivering these mystery ballots to the counting center in the middle of the night (unloading them from a white van into a little red wagon) the link I used yesterday had been deleted by YouTube but I found this new one (can’t stop the signal, Mal)
Gee whiz. I can’t imagine why mysterious boxes are being moved into this supposedly secure voting facility in the middle of the night with no observers or chain of custody.
And there’s more. They just keep coming. Yesterday morning I saw a small article about a republican official calling shenanigans on the voting in his small county, which went overwhelmingly Trump last time, and how it appeared the votes tallied weren’t even enough to account for his immediate family. Of course he got laughed at by caring liberals. Fast forward a few hours and it turns out that the voting program was faulty. https://www.westernjournal.com/elec...didate-33-mi-counties-thought-using-software/
Worse, the same broken ass software was apparently used in 33 other counties. Hmmm… Again, with all these magical errors in these swing states all going in one side’s favor.
Then there’s SharpieGate, but I’ve heard so much conflicting stuff about that one, with sharpies actually working fine in the scantron machines, that I’m not putting much stock in that one yet. There’s a lawsuit already though, so it’ll be interesting to see what new information comes out.
Here’s another thing you learn about auditing. The more chaotic the system, the more chances for fraud. So when you come across a system that is extra chaotic on purpose, that tells you that the people running it want it that way for a reason.
And the flags just keep coming in. This is going to be way worse than Florida in 2000.
What happens now? Beats me. It goes to court, and then the real question becomes how much spine the republicans have to actually fight. In previous years I’d assume they’d be a bunch of spineless chickenshits and wimp out like usual, but I’m not so sure this time. I don’t know if or how any of these will pan out, and without access to the real data, all I can do is guess.
I can say without hesitation though, that ****ery is afoot, and if an actual real investigation happens they’ll be able to prove it. Only this is politics, so who knows. The only thing I do know for certain is that this election is so ****ed up it is just going to make America’s two halves hate each other even more.
Update: I did a part 2 https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/09/election-2020-the-more-****ery-update/
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Not that certain people will read it, however it goes like this, first you observe anomalies, red flags, then you start digging. You don't have taxpayers audit their own returns, an outside agency does. Recounting potential fraudulent votes by those who possibly cheated will not get down to the truth.
You need the raw data, and in many cases that was thrown out in these cases. Try doing that with the IRS and see what happens.
Try doing that with mobile devices and your email servers if you're a Democrat appointed Secretary of State. Oh I'm sorry, that's a poor example. Or maybe not?
 

bourbon n blues

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There is a mountain of evidence of wide spread voter fraud, or at a minimum enough evidence to warrant a deep dive into what went on a serious effort to protect the one person, one vote rule essential to the integrity of our republic.
 

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There is a mountain of evidence of wide spread voter fraud, or at a minimum enough evidence to warrant a deep dive into what went on a serious effort to protect the one person, one vote rule essential to the integrity of our republic.
serious question, are you still waiting for your share of the $28 million the nephew of the Nigerian oil minister promised you in that email?
 
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Gobert21

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There's credible evidence along with multiple snomslues that scream fraud. You don't care because you're a democrat so the odds are your trash. Just a useless sack of protoplasm . You would've been more use to the world if dad just deposited you in a sock.
Either way, you have a good day.😎
Anytime I can under the thin skin of a repuke is a good day.
 

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50 yard line after dark
As a reminder, it’s been 1.5 years since the election
Yeah, and your side is only now admitting that Hunter Biden's laptop is genuine and incriminating. I've known that for 1.5 years but the New York Times and WaPost are only now "finding out".

As for voter fraud, you guys got away with it in 2020 (sort of since Joe Biden is a disaster from which your party won't soon recover), but November 2022 will be more like last year's election cycle when Virginia and New Jersey went further red. Now that we are all watching (and know what to watch for) it is going to be nearly impossible for you guys to *poof* magically flip five states with ballot dumps at 3am.
 

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Yeah, and your side is only now admitting that Hunter Biden's laptop is genuine and incriminating. I've known that for 1.5 years but the New York Times and WaPost are only now "finding out".

As for voter fraud, you guys got away with it in 2020 (sort of since Joe Biden is a disaster from which your party won't soon recover), but November 2022 will be more like last year's election cycle when Virginia and New Jersey went further red. Now that we are all watching (and know what to watch for) it is going to be nearly impossible for you guys to *poof* magically flip five states with ballot dumps at 3am.
Yep
 

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I was listening to right wing radio this morning out of Philly(Don Giordano) and he was about to interview the guy behind a right wing documentary about voter fraud in the 2020 election(I’m assuming it’s the same one mentioned above).

Guess where they were going to premiere the documentary?

You guessed it….Maralago.

As soon as he said that I turned the dial because all impartiality was gone.
 

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How can anyone from either tribe defend $400 million from a single person being injected into the electoral process? The “winners” may try to defend it as legal after the fact, but as a theoretical question no one can be comfortable with this precedent.
 

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How can anyone from either tribe defend $400 million from a single person being injected into the electoral process? The “winners” may try to defend it as legal after the fact, but as a theoretical question no one can be comfortable with this precedent.
Just as the Conservative Supreme Court wanted it.
 

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How can anyone from either tribe defend $400 million from a single person being injected into the electoral process? The “winners” may try to defend it as legal after the fact, but as a theoretical question no one can be comfortable with this precedent.
It was used to facilitate fraud, this was not paid adds for example .
 
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CTCL/CEIR funded self-described “vote navigators” in Wisconsin to “assist voters, potentially at their front doors, to answer questions, assist in ballot curing … and witness absentee ballot signatures,” and a temporary staffing agency affiliated with Stacey Abrams called Happy Faces counting the votes amid the election night chaos in Fulton County, Georgia.

CTCL demanded the promotion of universal mail-in voting through suspending election laws, extending deadlines that favored mail-in over in-person voting, greatly expanding opportunities for “ballot curing,” expensive bulk mailings, and other lavish “community outreach” programs that were directed by private activists.
 
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So explain to me why orange face was the only repuke to loose in Wis? Why did Ron (putin lover) Johnson win?

Why after repukes in GA did recounts done by a repuke, who voted for the orange one still come up with Biden winning?

Why in AR did they do a very thorough recount of their election and waist the tax payers money did he loose again?

In FL with over 11 million votes they have only found 75 votes that were questionable and I know the 4 in our area that 3 of 4 voted in two states and the 4th, the mother took the daughters mail-in ballot and signed for her. The daughter did the right thing and turned her in. Guess what they all voted for your hero .

This is just like Putin saying Ukraine is going to use chemical weapons, when in fact he'll be doing it. You accuse your opposition of cheating when in fact it is you that's doing the cheating.

All your BS fraudulent voter fraud is just that, Bull Shit.

Get over it your boy lost.

I will agree with you if Hunter broke the law nail his ass, but you better get Javanka and that crooked family just as well.