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Everybody notice how BOT-bots stifel-up when OAG SWIGJ malfeasance discussion turns toward 1998?

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It is quite clear who not only enabled, but literally protected and provided a shield, to allow a pedophile to keep predating upon children via his fraudulent charitable and philanthropic activities (e.g., not just TSM, but State-sponsored Foster Parenting, State-sponsored Adoption, contracts with DPW for group homes, counselling, program profiling, etc...). And the enablers quite clearly were NOT JVP and the PSU Football Program. The "friends of Jerry" enablers quite clearly were among the "all powerful" Executive Committee of the PSU BOT with strong ties and influence at the highest levels of PA Govt as well as within Sandusky's fraudent charity, The Second Mile. They were powerful enough, and corrupt enough, to have the University Park, PA Police Dept's Criminal Investigation Case File of the 1998 CSA Incident (which was reported to the DPW Child Abuse Hotline by a Mandatory Reporter, who identified themselves as a Mandatory Reporter, in addition to being reported to the UPPD by the mother of the child) RECLASSIFIED as an "Administrative File". A series of machinations between DPW Investigators and CYS/TSM such that DPW voided Allycia Chambers' report indicating Sandusky likely was a pedophile, replacing it with a DPW hired consultant's report who wasn't even a credentialed psychologist (John Seasock), filed an Official DPW Investigation Report which literally EXONORATED Sandusky within the written findings of the report and thereby thwarted and killed the UPPD & Centre County DA Office's case against Sandusky thus enabling the pedophile to keep right on predating on kids within his fraudulent charity DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE UPPD POLICE DEPT ATTEMPTED TO STOP JS AND WAS RENDERED POWERLESS BY "The Friends of Jerry" on the EC of the PSU BOT (the very same scum who were the crafters of the "False Narrative", that they know is a load of bullshat, in Nov 2011). Then these same sick jokers turn around some 6 months later and grant Sandusky a sweetheart retirement package (when at the very least he should have been terminated based on PSU's internal investigation of the 1998 Incident), grant him "Emeritus Status for distinguished service" that he didn't even qualify for (Provost Fraudney signed the exception for this) & granted Sandusky unlimited access to the Campus and it's facilities for his fraudulent charitable endeavors KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN 1998 INCLUDING PSU's OWN INVESTIGATION FINDING SANDUSKY GUILTY AS CHARGED!!

The BOT-bots know damn well who was responsible for putting pedophile Sandusky on campus along with children from his hunting grounds (e.g., his fraud charity TSM) in 2001 -- the very same people who granted Sandusky 15 acres of PSU's land for effectively nothing to build the "pedophile hunting grounds he'd always dreamed of" in the Spring 2002 AFTER Sandusky's charity had been banned from campus largely at the behest of the PSU Athetic Department!

This corrupt, tyranous, immoral scum know that their claims that JVP and PSU's Football program being responsible for protecting and enabling pedophile Sandusky (and his powerful "good buddies") is a load of crap and nothing more than the "False Narrative", "Move Along, Nothing To See Here" propaganda and PR spin demagoguery it is.
 
Good, to the point summary, filtering out the "noise" that clouds and distorts the situation. So many know the summary, is there anyone out there with enough integrity and power to march forward with this information to reveal the truth?

There is STILL a cadre of scoundrels that need expelled from OUR university!
 
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Good, to the point summary, filtering out the "noise" that clouds and distorts the situation. So many know the summary, is there anyone out there with enough integrity and power to march forward with this information to reveal the truth?

There is STILL a cadre of scoundrels that need expelled from OUR university!


The last person with integrity, known to have tried, sleeps with the fishes somewhere in the Susquehanna river basin.
 
This is why Cynthia Baldwin, a former BOT member suddenly appeared as General Counsel and Tom Harmon has trouble filing and remembering.
 
It is quite clear who not only enabled, but literally protected and provided a shield, to allow a pedophile to keep predating upon children via his fraudulent charitable and philanthropic activities (e.g., not just TSM, but State-sponsored Foster Parenting, State-sponsored Adoption, contracts with DPW for group homes, counselling, program profiling, etc...). And the enablers quite clearly were NOT JVP and the PSU Football Program. The "friends of Jerry" enablers quite clearly were among the "all powerful" Executive Committee of the PSU BOT with strong ties and influence at the highest levels of PA Govt as well as within Sandusky's fraudent charity, The Second Mile. They were powerful enough, and corrupt enough, to have the University Park, PA Police Dept's Criminal Investigation Case File of the 1998 CSA Incident (which was reported to the DPW Child Abuse Hotline by a Mandatory Reporter, who identified themselves as a Mandatory Reporter, in addition to being reported to the UPPD by the mother of the child) RECLASSIFIED as an "Administrative File". A series of machinations between DPW Investigators and CYS/TSM such that DPW voided Allycia Chambers' report indicating Sandusky likely was a pedophile, replacing it with a DPW hired consultant's report who wasn't even a credentialed psychologist (John Seasock), filed an Official DPW Investigation Report which literally EXONORATED Sandusky within the written findings of the report and thereby thwarted and killed the UPPD & Centre County DA Office's case against Sandusky thus enabling the pedophile to keep right on predating on kids within his fraudulent charity DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE UPPD POLICE DEPT ATTEMPTED TO STOP JS AND WAS RENDERED POWERLESS BY "The Friends of Jerry" on the EC of the PSU BOT (the very same scum who were the crafters of the "False Narrative", that they know is a load of bullshat, in Nov 2011). Then these same sick jokers turn around some 6 months later and grant Sandusky a sweetheart retirement package (when at the very least he should have been terminated based on PSU's internal investigation of the 1998 Incident), grant him "Emeritus Status for distinguished service" that he didn't even qualify for (Provost Fraudney signed the exception for this) & granted Sandusky unlimited access to the Campus and it's facilities for his fraudulent charitable endeavors KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN 1998 INCLUDING PSU's OWN INVESTIGATION FINDING SANDUSKY GUILTY AS CHARGED!!

The BOT-bots know damn well who was responsible for putting pedophile Sandusky on campus along with children from his hunting grounds (e.g., his fraud charity TSM) in 2001 -- the very same people who granted Sandusky 15 acres of PSU's land for effectively nothing to build the "pedophile hunting grounds he'd always dreamed of" in the Spring 2002 AFTER Sandusky's charity had been banned from campus largely at the behest of the PSU Athetic Department!

This corrupt, tyranous, immoral scum know that their claims that JVP and PSU's Football program being responsible for protecting and enabling pedophile Sandusky (and his powerful "good buddies") is a load of crap and nothing more than the "False Narrative", "Move Along, Nothing To See Here" propaganda and PR spin demagoguery it is.
What evidence do you have that the DPW "hired" Seasock and please identify the individual at DPW who did the hiring. Also, why did Penn State enter into a long term contract with Seasock? Finally, what evidence do you have that TSM knew about the '98 incident?
 
What evidence do you have that the DPW "hired" Seasock and please identify the individual at DPW who did the hiring. Also, why did Penn State enter into a long term contract with Seasock? Finally, what evidence do you have that TSM knew about the '98 incident?

and right on queue.......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ more drivel from CDW.

Seasock didn't just materialize out of thin air. In fact we know he didn't come from the UPPD/CC DA side as UPPD's Schreffler AND ADA Karen Arnold told DPW/CYS that they were AGAINST a 2nd evaluation being done on V6 but DPW went ahead and did it anyway. Seasock came from DPW, either from Lauro or someone over Lauro's head. Sure would be nice if the state would share with us who exactly at DPW made the call to bring in Seasock to sandbag the entire 98 investigation now wouldn't it??

Also, per state law CC CYS was required to inform TSM about the 98 incident/investigation. To suggest that TSM didn't know about the 1998 investigation is pretty absurd. So, either CYS broke the law or TSM was told. Either way it doesn't look good for these child care agencies and their enabling of JS's crimes after 1998.

As far as Seasock getting a contract with PSU after the 1998 incident, perhaps the OG BOT/TSM were so happy with his work of doing their bidding that they wanted to reward him? Who the heck knows...
 
What evidence do you have that the DPW "hired" Seasock and please identify the individual at DPW who did the hiring. Also, why did Penn State enter into a long term contract with Seasock? Finally, what evidence do you have that TSM knew about the '98 incident?

That right there is pretty funny.
 
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and right on queue.......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ more drivel from CDW.

Seasock didn't just materialize out of thin air. In fact we know he didn't come from the UPPD/CC DA side as UPPD's Schreffler AND ADA Karen Arnold told DPW/CYS that they were AGAINST a 2nd evaluation being done on V6 but DPW went ahead and did it anyway. Seasock came from DPW, either from Lauro or someone over Lauro's head. Sure would be nice if the state would share with us who exactly at DPW made the call to bring in Seasock to sandbag the entire 98 investigation now wouldn't it??

Also, per state law CC CYS was required to inform TSM about the 98 incident/investigation. To suggest that TSM didn't know about the 1998 investigation is pretty absurd. So, either CYS broke the law or TSM was told. Either way it doesn't look good for these child care agencies and their enabling of JS's crimes after 1998.

As far as Seasock getting a contract with PSU after the 1998 incident, perhaps the OG BOT/TSM were so happy with his work of doing their bidding that they wanted to reward him? Who the heck knows...
I asked for evidence and I got stupidity.
 
and right on queue.......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ more drivel from CDW.

Seasock didn't just materialize out of thin air. In fact we know he didn't come from the UPPD/CC DA side as UPPD's Schreffler AND ADA Karen Arnold told DPW/CYS that they were AGAINST a 2nd evaluation being done on V6 but DPW went ahead and did it anyway. Seasock came from DPW, either from Lauro or someone over Lauro's head. Sure would be nice if the state would share with us who exactly at DPW made the call to bring in Seasock to sandbag the entire 98 investigation now wouldn't it??

Also, per state law CC CYS was required to inform TSM about the 98 incident/investigation. To suggest that TSM didn't know about the 1998 investigation is pretty absurd. So, either CYS broke the law or TSM was told. Either way it doesn't look good for these child care agencies and their enabling of JS's crimes after 1998.

As far as Seasock getting a contract with PSU after the 1998 incident, perhaps the OG BOT/TSM were so happy with his work of doing their bidding that they wanted to reward him? Who the heck knows...

Thank you. Was going to point these items out to the BOT-bot boot-licker and servile demagogue, but it does get tiresome as it is not our obligation to meet this douche-bags demands, but it most definitely is the State Agencies obligation to follow State Law including Regulatory Procedures (including proper regulation of TSM rather than making lame claims that PSU is really in fact TSM's Regulator???).

The reality is that UPPD's investigation of the mother's report had nothing to do with DPW initiating an investigation - as a Mandated Reporter, UPPD is obligated to notify Centre County CYS of such a report involving a child, which they absolutely did the same day the mother made the call to UPPD. However, DPW's Formal Investigation was initiated as a result of Allycia Chambers' Child Abuse Hotline Report directly to DPW. In addition, she relayed that she was a Mandatory Reporter under the CPS Law and that Centre County CYS had a conflict of interest with the perp via contractual relationships at TSM, which is why DPW had to get directly involved with a State-Office Investigator rather than using a Centre County CYS field worker. DPW knew who Allycia Chambers was via her Child Hotline Report, knew that she was the child's therapist and knew that is how she found out as she told DPW she was a Mandatory Reporter when she made the report. DPW then brought Seasock into the equation and relied upon his report to craft their findings, including an explicit exoneration of Sandusky, and to negate Chambers' opinion on the matter.
 
And aren't you in the "Jerry's not a pedophile group," in which case, in your view, CYS/DPW/TSM all acted appropriately.

Sigh.....I am FAR from the "Jerry's not a pedophile group" nice try though. If you've read any of my posts you'd know that I think CC CYS/TSM/DPW screwed up BIG TIME re: 1998 (IMO 1998 was WORSE than 2001 b/c you have an actual kid and his mom complaining directly to LE about JS and the kid's psychologist opining to CYS/DPW that JS was exhibiting grooming type behavior). I think JS is guilty and belongs in jail however I also don't think he got a fair trial (the reason his trial was rammed through the system at light speed rules of the court be damned remains to be seen). Apparently you are one of the people who can't separate the two.

When it comes to analyzing the PSU admins actions re: 98 and 2001 I think the current narrative is complete B.S. because if you believe it then you'd have to believe that some college admins/fb coach should have known better than what the state child care experts from CC CYS/DPW were telling them about the legality/appropriateness of JS's behavior. In 1998 CC CYS/DPW are the folks who said JS's naked bear hug from behind in the shower behavior was A-OK in their book, and didn't even so much as revoke his ChildLine clearance or restrict JS's 1:1 access to kids to prevent any more "misunderstandings".
 
Still no evidence regarding my points. Just the typical "move the goal posts" and "change the subject" BS that has become the MO of certain posters on this site (they're usually the ones who don't know how caps lock works).

And I see all the JerryBots have slithered back into their holes. We'll have to wait until another Ziegler posting to see their re-emergence.
 
Still no evidence regarding my points. Just the typical "move the goal posts" and "change the subject" BS that has become the MO of certain posters on this site (they're usually the ones who don't know how caps lock works).

And I see all the JerryBots have slithered back into their holes. We'll have to wait until another Ziegler posting to see their re-emergence.


SFB, you never have any "points" as you like to call them! You just make sh*t up to satisfy your handlers and spew your crap for everyone to read! Hope you made your quota for the week so you earn your "stipend"!
 
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Still no evidence.

What evidence are you asking for? It's a FACT that DPW brought in Seasock. Go check out the 1998 UPPD report for your "evidence" if you don't believe us. No one has the time nor inclination to spoon feed you everything after you make dumb ass assertions. The only people who know exactly who at DPW brought in Seasock are the folks at DPW and they certainly aren't broadcasting that info out to the world.

If you read Lauro's testimony it's a complete joke. The guy claimed to not be aware of Chambers report even though his own agency received it via two different avenues. The first being Chamber's verbal call to Childline (which is run by DPW) and the second was Chambers sending a hard copy of her report to UPPD's Schreffler on 5/8/98 to act as corroboration for his report. Unless DPW didn't bother to tell Lauro that they received a ChildLine call for the very person he was investigating or Lauro didn't even bother to read UPPD's police report before making his final determination in early June (which would make no sense since he was working hand in hand with UPPD from the day he arrived on the case) then Lauro is lying.

He is lying to help protect DPW and whoever there decided to bring in Seasock to counter Chamber's opinion.
 
It is quite clear who not only enabled, but literally protected and provided a shield, to allow a pedophile to keep predating upon children via his fraudulent charitable and philanthropic activities (e.g., not just TSM, but State-sponsored Foster Parenting, State-sponsored Adoption, contracts with DPW for group homes, counselling, program profiling, etc...). And the enablers quite clearly were NOT JVP and the PSU Football Program. The "friends of Jerry" enablers quite clearly were among the "all powerful" Executive Committee of the PSU BOT with strong ties and influence at the highest levels of PA Govt as well as within Sandusky's fraudent charity, The Second Mile. They were powerful enough, and corrupt enough, to have the University Park, PA Police Dept's Criminal Investigation Case File of the 1998 CSA Incident (which was reported to the DPW Child Abuse Hotline by a Mandatory Reporter, who identified themselves as a Mandatory Reporter, in addition to being reported to the UPPD by the mother of the child) RECLASSIFIED as an "Administrative File". A series of machinations between DPW Investigators and CYS/TSM such that DPW voided Allycia Chambers' report indicating Sandusky likely was a pedophile, replacing it with a DPW hired consultant's report who wasn't even a credentialed psychologist (John Seasock), filed an Official DPW Investigation Report which literally EXONORATED Sandusky within the written findings of the report and thereby thwarted and killed the UPPD & Centre County DA Office's case against Sandusky thus enabling the pedophile to keep right on predating on kids within his fraudulent charity DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE UPPD POLICE DEPT ATTEMPTED TO STOP JS AND WAS RENDERED POWERLESS BY "The Friends of Jerry" on the EC of the PSU BOT (the very same scum who were the crafters of the "False Narrative", that they know is a load of bullshat, in Nov 2011). Then these same sick jokers turn around some 6 months later and grant Sandusky a sweetheart retirement package (when at the very least he should have been terminated based on PSU's internal investigation of the 1998 Incident), grant him "Emeritus Status for distinguished service" that he didn't even qualify for (Provost Fraudney signed the exception for this) & granted Sandusky unlimited access to the Campus and it's facilities for his fraudulent charitable endeavors KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN 1998 INCLUDING PSU's OWN INVESTIGATION FINDING SANDUSKY GUILTY AS CHARGED!!

The BOT-bots know damn well who was responsible for putting pedophile Sandusky on campus along with children from his hunting grounds (e.g., his fraud charity TSM) in 2001 -- the very same people who granted Sandusky 15 acres of PSU's land for effectively nothing to build the "pedophile hunting grounds he'd always dreamed of" in the Spring 2002 AFTER Sandusky's charity had been banned from campus largely at the behest of the PSU Athetic Department!

This corrupt, tyranous, immoral scum know that their claims that JVP and PSU's Football program being responsible for protecting and enabling pedophile Sandusky (and his powerful "good buddies") is a load of crap and nothing more than the "False Narrative", "Move Along, Nothing To See Here" propaganda and PR spin demagoguery it is.

****in' A exactly
 
What evidence are you asking for? It's a FACT that DPW brought in Seasock. Go check out the 1998 UPPD report for your "evidence" if you don't believe us. No one has the time nor inclination to spoon feed you everything after you make dumb ass assertions. The only people who know exactly who at DPW brought in Seasock are the folks at DPW and they certainly aren't broadcasting that info out to the world.

If you read Lauro's testimony it's a complete joke. The guy claimed to not be aware of Chambers report even though his own agency received it via two different avenues. The first being Chamber's verbal call to Childline (which is run by DPW) and the second was Chambers sending a hard copy of her report to UPPD's Schreffler on 5/8/98 to act as corroboration for his report. Unless DPW didn't bother to tell Lauro that they received a ChildLine call for the very person he was investigating or Lauro didn't even bother to read UPPD's police report before making his final determination in early June (which would make no sense since he was working hand in hand with UPPD from the day he arrived on the case) then Lauro is lying.

He is lying to help protect DPW and whoever there decided to bring in Seasock to counter Chamber's opinion.
That's not what Ray Blehar said today in another thread, so I assume the voices in your head are back. Or did they leave?
 
That's not what Ray Blehar said today in another thread, so I assume the voices in your head are back. Or did they leave?

Ok...so instead of saying "DPW" I should have said "CYS/DPW"...since they did the investigation in tandem....there...are you happy now? UPPD/CC DA were not the people who brought in Seasock...it was the child protective services folks. Not sure why you're even trying to argue this.
 
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Ok...so instead of saying "DPW" I should have said "CYS/DPW"...since they did the investigation in tandem....there...are you happy now? UPPD/CC DA were not the people who brought in Seasock...it was the child protective services folks. Not sure why you're even trying to argue this.

CYS is DPW... The County-Level CYS Offices report into, and are managed by, the Department of Public Welfare at the State-Level in Harrisburg.
 
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You have to admit, that the response from the BOT-bot on duty is very predictable.

Listening to these drones is like listening to the robots in the old 1950s Sci-fi movies, "I am a BOT-bot drone. I am only programmed with one response. I will repeat it over and over ad naseum. I am only programmed for one response....". Not only irritating, pride-less, nauseating sellouts, but apparently bland, unimaginitive, boring and just plain lame as well. These turds must be real chargers at the cocktail party.
 
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Ok...so instead of saying "DPW" I should have said "CYS/DPW"...since they did the investigation in tandem....there...are you happy now? UPPD/CC DA were not the people who brought in Seasock...it was the child protective services folks. Not sure why you're even trying to argue this.
When he was asked if he's spoken to the other kid, Seasock said he hadn't but he would if the DA and the police asked him to, which suggests they're who was directing and controlling Seasock.

I don't know who was responsible for Seasock. Neither do you. The difference is that I don't just make stuff up.
 
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That's not what Ray Blehar said today in another thread, so I assume the voices in your head are back. Or did they leave?


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When he was asked if he's spoken to the other kid, Seasock said he hadn't but he would if the DA and the police asked him to, which suggests they're who was directing and controlling Seasock.

I don't know who was responsible for Seasock. Neither do you. The difference is that I don't just make stuff up.

LOL...and you're taking Seasock (who's up to his eyeballs in this mess, along with Lauro/Miller) at his word because??? Look, if CYS/DPW are investigating a suspected abuse complaint they don't need the DA/LE's permission to speak to a kid. LE would like to be looped in, sure, but they aren't the arbitrators of who CYS workers (or people working on their behalf aka Seasock) can speak to. We know for a fact that Seasock did counseling work on the side for TSM before the 1998 incident took place...so because of that Seasock had a conflict of interest and never should have been brought in to do a 2nd evaluation (instead of a person with no COI's) but yet he was...hmmm.

If ADA Arnold and UPPD's Schreffler had their way Seasock wouldn't have even spoken to V6 at all, let alone B.K. (who was the 2nd kid CYS/DPW knew JS gave a naked bear hug from behind in the showers) so that disproves Seasock's contension right there. The local DA/police were perfectly happy with and agreed with Chambers' opinion (Chambers' colleagues also agreed with her opinion as stated in her cover letter to Schreffler) and didn't want a 2nd person coming in and ruining their case.
 
When he was asked if he's spoken to the other kid, Seasock said he hadn't but he would if the DA and the police asked him to, which suggests they're who was directing and controlling Seasock.

I don't know who was responsible for Seasock. Neither do you. The difference is that I don't just make stuff up.

He's not making stuff up, it says right in Schreffler's Police File that CYS/DPW contracted with Seasock and scheduled an interview with V6. The Centre County DA's Office & Schreffler immediately requested the interview be cancelled as soon as they were informed of the arrangement by John Miller of CENTRE COUNTY CYS! Miller confirmed that he would cancel and then the meeting took place as scheduled - Miller later lamely claimed to Gricar and Schreffler that he tried to cancel but the higher-ups at DPW insisted it go off as scheduled.
 
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Does anyone think someone in this morose conglomer****aroo is responsible for the departed da thinking WTF is going on and thus his departation
 
He's not making stuff up, it says right in Schreffler's Police File that CYS/DPW contracted with Seasock and scheduled an interview with V6. The Centre County DA's Office & Schreffler immediately requested the interview be cancelled as soon as they were informed of the arrangement by John Miller of CENTRE COUNTY CYS! Miller confirmed that he would cancel and then the meeting took place as scheduled - Miller later lamely claimed to Gricar and Schreffler that he tried to cancel but the higher-ups at DPW insisted it go off as scheduled.
Where does it say "that CYS/DPW contracted with Seasock and scheduled an interview with V6."

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/redactedpolicereport.pdf
 
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Where does it say "that CYS/DPW contracted with Seasock and scheduled an interview with V6."

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/redactedpolicereport.pdf

You might want to read page 10 and 11 of the linked police report -- it starts out with the date of May 7 and goes through May 9. It very clearly and explicitly says that Seasock was brought in by DPW/CYS (which is one in the same as the County-Level CYS Offices REPORT INTO AND ARE SUBSERVIENT to the State-Level Department of Public Welfare). It reviews that the Centre County DA specifically requested that the appointment be cancelled and asked that UPPD call DPW/CYS and relay that the Centre County DA wants the interviewed cancelled. Schreffler calls both CYS and DPW and then CYS again - end result he is told that DPW/CYS has cancelled the appointment.....only to be called later to be told by Lauro that his supervisor told him not to cancel the meeting and it went off on May 8 as scheduled. On page 11 it specifically states the following: "On May 9, 1998 at 12:10 pm, Reporting Officer received a call from JOHN SEASOCK (caps the reports not mine) who is a consultant with Centre County Mental Health and Childeren & Youth Services."

I'm done arguing with you drone-boy, the police report is quite clear as to who hired Seasock and who set up the interview with the boy (despite telling the Centre County DA via the UPPD that they would cancel the interview with the boy that they DID NOT cancel and had on May 8 despite committing that they would not).
 
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Still no evidence regarding my points. Just the typical "move the goal posts" and "change the subject" BS that has become the MO of certain posters on this site (they're usually the ones who don't know how caps lock works).

And I see all the JerryBots have slithered back into their holes. We'll have to wait until another Ziegler posting to see their re-emergence.
Actually you're the one moving the goal posts. You even replied to your own post to do so.

I'm far from a member of the free Jerry crowd. In fact nearly all my posts are about why he's a pedophile and doesn't deserve a new trial.

All that's to say I hardly ever agree with the posters you're going back and forth with ITT, but this is a rare occasion.


Somebody protected that sick twist in 98. It's not a great leap in logic to look at those who had the connections to get another evaluation done. It makes a lot of sense if you can be objective about the situation. We're not talking about a 911 conspiracy here. It's a couple phone calls and a favor to make sure the face of a beloved charity is taken care of. I doubt whoever did the asking thought JS was a pedophile at the time. They were wrong.
 
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CDW3333, I hope you are being facetious. Attorneys do have to read contracts and stuff, right?
The first reference to Seasock comes at the top of page 10 on May 7 when Arnold tells Shreffler that she doesn't the psychological evaluation being done. At this point a. Seasock had been contacted; b. Seasock had been hired. c. Plans were being made for an interview. There is no evidence as to who contacted Seasock or who hired him. Specifically, there is no evidence that the DPW "contracted" with him as the original poster claimed. In fact, there is no evidence that Seasock had worked with DPW previously although it appears he had worked with Centre County before.

The whole thing is odd. Seasock suddenly appears out of nowhere. Why doesn't Shreffler have any notes like, we're thinking of hiring a psychologist, or a decision has been made, or we're going to hire this guy, or something. Instead, not only has he been hired by May 7 but a meeting with the kid is being set up.

Shreffler then waits a whole day before contacting John Miller with CYS who says he's not involved except to set up the meeting. So the OP was wrong on this point as well. It wasn't DPW who set up the meeting, it was John Miller with CYS. Shreffler calls Lauro and says he wants to delay the meeting for a few days. Lauro says fine.

There are some discrepancies in the record that I'm assuming are just typos.

Shreffler calls Miller and tells him the meeting's off. Lauro calls back and says my supervisor wants to go ahead with the meeting and John Miller with CYS will tell the kid's mother. Oddly, Shreffler doesn't say the DA's office wants it called off at any point. Also, he never calls Arnold back to tell her that the meeting's going ahead. Finally, if DPW was running the show, why didn't Arnold call them directly and tell them to cancel the meeting?

I dunno. Maybe DPW ramrodded the whole situation. That's posssible, but it's not supported by the incomplete record that we have (and that's only Shreffler's perspective).

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/redactedpolicereport.pdf
 
The first reference to Seasock comes at the top of page 10 on May 7 when Arnold tells Shreffler that she doesn't the psychological evaluation being done. At this point a. Seasock had been contacted; b. Seasock had been hired. c. Plans were being made for an interview. There is no evidence as to who contacted Seasock or who hired him. Specifically, there is no evidence that the DPW "contracted" with him as the original poster claimed. In fact, there is no evidence that Seasock had worked with DPW previously although it appears he had worked with Centre County before.

The whole thing is odd. Seasock suddenly appears out of nowhere. Why doesn't Shreffler have any notes like, we're thinking of hiring a psychologist, or a decision has been made, or we're going to hire this guy, or something. Instead, not only has he been hired by May 7 but a meeting with the kid is being set up.

Shreffler then waits a whole day before contacting John Miller with CYS who says he's not involved except to set up the meeting. So the OP was wrong on this point as well. It wasn't DPW who set up the meeting, it was John Miller with CYS. Shreffler calls Lauro and says he wants to delay the meeting for a few days. Lauro says fine.

There are some discrepancies in the record that I'm assuming are just typos.

Shreffler calls Miller and tells him the meeting's off. Lauro calls back and says my supervisor wants to go ahead with the meeting and John Miller with CYS will tell the kid's mother. Oddly, Shreffler doesn't say the DA's office wants it called off at any point. Also, he never calls Arnold back to tell her that the meeting's going ahead. Finally, if DPW was running the show, why didn't Arnold call them directly and tell them to cancel the meeting?

I dunno. Maybe DPW ramrodded the whole situation. That's posssible, but it's not supported by the incomplete record that we have (and that's only Shreffler's perspective).

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/redactedpolicereport.pdf

You keep trying to act like UPPD is leading the DPW/CYS Investigation and you keep attempting to act like DPW and CYS are two different organizations. And Finally, you act like there is some ambiguity as to who hired Seasock and there simply is not - I gave you a direct quote from Schreffler who unequivocally states that Seasock is working under the auspice of Center County CYS. The various CYS County Offices report into the State-Level Government Agency known as "The Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare" often referred to as "DPW". In other words, your continued desire to delineate DPW and CYS as two different State Agencies is absurd and factually incorrect (hence Miller's comment about Centre County CYS simply doing what they are told to do by their superiors at DPW and in this case, the Investigator from DPW's Harrisburg Office, Lauro, is calling the shots). Only a complete moron who doesn't understand what he is plainly reading could come up with the interpretation you came up with. DPW continued on with the interview because they are an INDEPENDENT STATE AGENCY and are under no obligation to follow the orders of a County DA or a Municipal Police Force - they can do whatever they want which is precisely what they did do in this case you dolt. Beyond all that, the reason DPW was "LEADING THE INVESTIGATION" and not the local County-Level CYS (e.g., Miller's statement) had NOTHING to do with Schreffler, the UPPD or the Centre County DA -- it had to do with the fact that Allycia Chambers called the DPW Statewide Child Abuse Hotline on May 3rd or 4th and made a report on that DPW System -- BTW, UPPD and the Centre County DA's Office were completely unaware of AC's REPORT TO DPW'S STATEWIDE CHILD ABUSE HOTLINE. In her report AC identified herself as a Mandated Reporter under CPS Law RELATIVE TO THE CHILD and has also said that she identified in her report that the local reporting agency (e.g., the Centre County CYS Office of DPW) was very likely conflicted due to the fact that the suspected perpetrator of the abuse had a significant longstanding contractual relationship with Centre County CYS via The Second Mile (Sandusky was the most powerful "control person" at TSM via his "Founder's Status"). That is why DPW sent out an Investigator from the Harrisburg Office, because typically a Child Abuse Hotline call is ASSIGNED BY DPW to the local DPW County-Level CYS Office, but in this case they could not do that because the Mandated Reporter who placed the report had informed them that Centre County CYS was conflicted in regards to Sandusky via TSM being the largest subcontractor for Centre County CYS and had been for many years. In other words, a Harrisburg DPW Investigator being sent out when the case would typically be handled by the DPW's local County-Level Office, the CYS, had NOTHING to do with the Centre County DA's Office or UPPD and was ASSIGNED to a State-Level DPW Harrisburg Office Investigator due to Allycia Chambers report and the way she made it and nothing else.
 
The first reference to Seasock comes at the top of page 10 on May 7 when Arnold tells Shreffler that she doesn't the psychological evaluation being done. At this point a. Seasock had been contacted; b. Seasock had been hired. c. Plans were being made for an interview. There is no evidence as to who contacted Seasock or who hired him. Specifically, there is no evidence that the DPW "contracted" with him as the original poster claimed. In fact, there is no evidence that Seasock had worked with DPW previously although it appears he had worked with Centre County before.

The whole thing is odd. Seasock suddenly appears out of nowhere. Why doesn't Shreffler have any notes like, we're thinking of hiring a psychologist, or a decision has been made, or we're going to hire this guy, or something. Instead, not only has he been hired by May 7 but a meeting with the kid is being set up.

Shreffler then waits a whole day before contacting John Miller with CYS who says he's not involved except to set up the meeting. So the OP was wrong on this point as well. It wasn't DPW who set up the meeting, it was John Miller with CYS. Shreffler calls Lauro and says he wants to delay the meeting for a few days. Lauro says fine.

There are some discrepancies in the record that I'm assuming are just typos.

Shreffler calls Miller and tells him the meeting's off. Lauro calls back and says my supervisor wants to go ahead with the meeting and John Miller with CYS will tell the kid's mother. Oddly, Shreffler doesn't say the DA's office wants it called off at any point. Also, he never calls Arnold back to tell her that the meeting's going ahead. Finally, if DPW was running the show, why didn't Arnold call them directly and tell them to cancel the meeting?

I dunno. Maybe DPW ramrodded the whole situation. That's posssible, but it's not supported by the incomplete record that we have (and that's only Shreffler's perspective).

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/redactedpolicereport.pdf

I refer you to Professor Bushwood's response, v.s.
 
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The first reference to Seasock comes at the top of page 10 on May 7 when Arnold tells Shreffler that she doesn't the psychological evaluation being done. At this point a. Seasock had been contacted; b. Seasock had been hired. c. Plans were being made for an interview. There is no evidence as to who contacted Seasock or who hired him. Specifically, there is no evidence that the DPW "contracted" with him as the original poster claimed. In fact, there is no evidence that Seasock had worked with DPW previously although it appears he had worked with Centre County before.

The whole thing is odd. Seasock suddenly appears out of nowhere. Why doesn't Shreffler have any notes like, we're thinking of hiring a psychologist, or a decision has been made, or we're going to hire this guy, or something. Instead, not only has he been hired by May 7 but a meeting with the kid is being set up.

Shreffler then waits a whole day before contacting John Miller with CYS who says he's not involved except to set up the meeting. So the OP was wrong on this point as well. It wasn't DPW who set up the meeting, it was John Miller with CYS. Shreffler calls Lauro and says he wants to delay the meeting for a few days. Lauro says fine.

There are some discrepancies in the record that I'm assuming are just typos.

Shreffler calls Miller and tells him the meeting's off. Lauro calls back and says my supervisor wants to go ahead with the meeting and John Miller with CYS will tell the kid's mother. Oddly, Shreffler doesn't say the DA's office wants it called off at any point. Also, he never calls Arnold back to tell her that the meeting's going ahead. Finally, if DPW was running the show, why didn't Arnold call them directly and tell them to cancel the meeting?

I dunno. Maybe DPW ramrodded the whole situation. That's posssible, but it's not supported by the incomplete record that we have (and that's only Shreffler's perspective).

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/redactedpolicereport.pdf


You idiot.Make sense or go.
 
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It is quite clear who not only enabled, but literally protected and provided a shield, to allow a pedophile to keep predating upon children via his fraudulent charitable and philanthropic activities (e.g., not just TSM, but State-sponsored Foster Parenting, State-sponsored Adoption, contracts with DPW for group homes, counselling, program profiling, etc...). And the enablers quite clearly were NOT JVP and the PSU Football Program. The "friends of Jerry" enablers quite clearly were among the "all powerful" Executive Committee of the PSU BOT with strong ties and influence at the highest levels of PA Govt as well as within Sandusky's fraudent charity, The Second Mile. They were powerful enough, and corrupt enough, to have the University Park, PA Police Dept's Criminal Investigation Case File of the 1998 CSA Incident (which was reported to the DPW Child Abuse Hotline by a Mandatory Reporter, who identified themselves as a Mandatory Reporter, in addition to being reported to the UPPD by the mother of the child) RECLASSIFIED as an "Administrative File". A series of machinations between DPW Investigators and CYS/TSM such that DPW voided Allycia Chambers' report indicating Sandusky likely was a pedophile, replacing it with a DPW hired consultant's report who wasn't even a credentialed psychologist (John Seasock), filed an Official DPW Investigation Report which literally EXONORATED Sandusky within the written findings of the report and thereby thwarted and killed the UPPD & Centre County DA Office's case against Sandusky thus enabling the pedophile to keep right on predating on kids within his fraudulent charity DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE UPPD POLICE DEPT ATTEMPTED TO STOP JS AND WAS RENDERED POWERLESS BY "The Friends of Jerry" on the EC of the PSU BOT (the very same scum who were the crafters of the "False Narrative", that they know is a load of bullshat, in Nov 2011). Then these same sick jokers turn around some 6 months later and grant Sandusky a sweetheart retirement package (when at the very least he should have been terminated based on PSU's internal investigation of the 1998 Incident), grant him "Emeritus Status for distinguished service" that he didn't even qualify for (Provost Fraudney signed the exception for this) & granted Sandusky unlimited access to the Campus and it's facilities for his fraudulent charitable endeavors KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN 1998 INCLUDING PSU's OWN INVESTIGATION FINDING SANDUSKY GUILTY AS CHARGED!!

The BOT-bots know damn well who was responsible for putting pedophile Sandusky on campus along with children from his hunting grounds (e.g., his fraud charity TSM) in 2001 -- the very same people who granted Sandusky 15 acres of PSU's land for effectively nothing to build the "pedophile hunting grounds he'd always dreamed of" in the Spring 2002 AFTER Sandusky's charity had been banned from campus largely at the behest of the PSU Athetic Department!

This corrupt, tyranous, immoral scum know that their claims that JVP and PSU's Football program being responsible for protecting and enabling pedophile Sandusky (and his powerful "good buddies") is a load of crap and nothing more than the "False Narrative", "Move Along, Nothing To See Here" propaganda and PR spin demagoguery it is.

Let's say you're correct that some on the BOT knowingly covered for JS in 1998 (to protect the image of the university and to cover for their own relationship with TSM). Why would they knowingly allow JS to abuse kids on campus after that? It just doesn't make sense.
 
Let's say you're correct that some on the BOT knowingly covered for JS in 1998 (to protect the image of the university and to cover for their own relationship with TSM). Why would they knowingly allow JS to abuse kids on campus after that? It just doesn't make sense.
He said he'd stop ?
 
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