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Every circus needs a clown.How does that clown still have a job?
If we pay football players market value, what becomes of all the other sports and student athletes?
If we pay football players market value, what becomes of all the other sports and student athletes?
There really isn’t a debate. Nobody is forcing these kids to play....in fact, they’re lining up to do it. The free market system you talk about is working....they get what they get and they have every right not to do it. They know what they’re signing up for.I haven’t. Saving to do so (mine are 7 and 2).
Just like capitalism, they should get whatever someone wants to give them. For those that can’t get any extra, the scholarship would have to be enough.
Hey, I don’t think it is right, but it goes on anyway. So why continue the charade that these athletes are “amateurs”. I agree, playing a couple of years at a college sport shouldn’t make you set for life. But If some booster wants to drop high five or low six figures on a kid so they attend his/her school, what is it to me or you (if they make it legal).
I used to be in the camp of the scholarship should be enough. But you know what, every one else is allowed to go and make money while in college, (and yes, it is not the same amount, but the athlete has a skill set that is coveted more) why should these guys not be in the same boat .
Make it legal and end these ridiculous debates .
There really isn’t a debate. Nobody is forcing these kids to play....in fact, they’re lining up to do it. The free market system you talk about is working....they get what they get and they have every right not to do it. They know what they’re signing up for.
So was Orlando Pace. But by and large waiting three years is good for the player.I won't disagree however, there are exceptions. Barkley, I think, is an exception
Now we're getting somewhere. We need the surplus generated by football players to underwrite the scholarships of swimmers, nand tennis players, and golfers, and gymnasts, et al. Funny how you overlook the possibility of using that surplus to provide scholarships of non-athletes with financial need. Not to worry. You're in fine company with folks like Barron, and Barbour. But I digress.
I know of no one who has paid for their childs HS sports participation fee who expects them to gain a college ship. with it. I'm sure it happens but I have not witnessed it.
I think both school and student have obligations. If not met the contract is broken on either side but should be for a duration of the generally accepted length to graduation. If not it becomes a pro mentality not a student/athlete mentality.
It definitely needs to be addressed, I just don’t know the best way to do it. I think making it okay would be like legalizing heroin....it would create a huge mess where a handful of schools would rule the world. I also think a lot of smaller schools would sell their souls to create a one time winner then crush the rest of their future. Maybe I’m wrong about that but I think at least attempting to control it is better than opening the flood gates.You make salient points and I always respect your opinion when you weigh in on topics. I usually find myself aligned with your thoughts and opinions. And I cannot argue against your statements.
But I think that your statement can be flipped in regards to the high end talent and that in fact it is the schools that are lining up to get the players. It creates a situation where they can demand more than just the full ride, and as it has played out, they get certain financial rewards for selecting one school over another. And that is where the issue/debate of paying college players exists. Personally, I don’t care if they get paid it not. But when federal agencies, and funds are being used to investigate this “problem”, then it needs to be addressed.
Dr Spanier was a prof in H Dev when I was a student...liked and respected him then...I should have appreciated Graham Spanier much more in the past than I did. I shook his hand on College Ave. a few times after playing in their sidewalk performances on game day.
It definitely needs to be addressed, I just don’t know the best way to do it. I think making it okay would be like legalizing heroin....it would create a huge mess where a handful of schools would rule the world. I also think a lot of smaller schools would sell their souls to create a one time winner then crush the rest of their future. Maybe I’m wrong about that but I think at least attempting to control it is better than opening the flood gates.
That sounds like a pyramid-scheme to me ;-)God forbid they share their billions with the student-athletes who generate the revenue.
God forbid they share their billions with the student-athletes who generate the revenue.
If we pay football players market value, what becomes of all the other sports and student athletes?