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Do you think there is a pedo ring?

Do you think that TSM, Fina, Corbett, and others are covering up a pedo ring?

  • YES

    Votes: 79 61.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 45 34.9%
  • OTHER (PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR RESPONSE)

    Votes: 5 3.9%

  • Total voters
    129

PennSt8er

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After 5 years, I'm still trying to understand why so much money and effort was spilled to focus attention on the PSU CSS. Who is being protected at the state level? Why? Is Greg Bucceroni telling the truth? Curious what others think.
 
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The fact that no "pedophile ring" has been discovered very much supports John Zieglers view of the case.
Then who is being protected and from what exactly? I'm not challenging this view at all. Just trying to connect the dots.
 
I think it is more plausible that there were "financial" irregularities at TSM. The roots of these transactions were deep and reached too many powerful individuals, families and corporations.
What was the annual operating budget for 2nd Mile?
Couple million? IDK

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What is the operating budget for PSU?
$5,000,000,000? $6,000,000,000? Something like that?
 
My experience is that there should have been some corroborating evidence found on Sandusky's computers or at his house. The fact that this has NOT been discovered or released is troubling to me.
 
After 5 years, I'm still trying to understand why so much money and effort was spilled to focus attention on the PSU CSS. Who is being protected at the state level? Why? Is Greg Bucceroni telling the truth? Curious what others think.

What was McArthyism about?

People who did this came down to one simple reason: because they can.

Sure. There's guilt. MM, Daddy-O, Dranov, TC, Schultz, Spanier and even Joe didn't pick up on the s/s of "grooming". Spanier had training; Daddy-O was a PA; Dranov a physician; Schultz knew about 1998.

BUTT FVCKING STUPID DECISIONS WERE MADE.

This mess srinks. I think TSM skating free is simply not to tie innocent people into this mess MORE than it is to hide guilty people.

Take Paterno out of the picture and this is Baylor or Michigan State news worthy. With "saint" Joepa...it's like General Patton being accused to be a Russian Spy.
 
I think it is more plausible that there were "financial" irregularities at TSM. The roots of these transactions were deep and reached too many powerful individuals, families and corporations.

Massive amounts of money being laundered thru the 2M and going into some prominent pockets. Blehar stated it was more than a possibility and so did our guy Sheerhan...
 
I still think this whole mess has a connection to the Hershey Foundation. $7 billion is a lot of money and PSU's med school bears its name.

And check out the prominent names on Hershey's Board...one name in particular....Rod "the fraud" Erickson. 'Nuff said.
 
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There's guilt. MM, Daddy-O, Dranov, TC, Schultz, Spanier and even Joe didn't pick up on the s/s of "grooming". Spanier had training; Daddy-O was a PA; Dranov a physician; Schultz knew about 1998.
Get the f__k out of here with the grooming knowledge....I didn't know the "grooming technic" of a child until the Paterno report was made and the different levels of grooming & pedophilia was explained. Do you really think Joe knew about "groooooming?
 
Get the f__k out of here with the grooming knowledge....I didn't know the "grooming technic" of a child until the Paterno report was made and the different levels of grooming & pedophilia was explained. Do you really think Joe knew about "groooooming?

People don't want to beleive JS could fool so many. But he did! Just ask the folks at Central Mtn HS...
 
Massive amounts of money being laundered thru the 2M and going into some prominent pockets. Blehar stated it was more than a possibility and so did our guy Sheerhan...

I've said that for years, and moreso "contract manipulation". Poole could prep and rent sites for TSM gatherings above market value. The corn/veggie and potato kings could provide foodstuffs and "catering" at exhorbitant prices. Tents, toilets and all that crap could be provided by the brother in law with the rental business at above going rates, same thing with transporting kids and providing them with things for activities. The list is endless.
 
I still think this whole mess has a connection to the Hershey Foundation. $7 billion is a lot of money and PSU's med school bears its name.

Awhile back, I had posted a link, where Tom Corbuccigaloop and 2 BoT cronies were pulling down hundreds of thousands in fees sitting on the boards of the Hershey Trust and school, with Bucci pullling down the most at like $400K a year, the cronies less but more than $150K a year. Wish I'd saved that article.

Just one of many, "$1900/hr."

http://www.witf.org/news/2010/09/group-urges-probe-of-hershey-trust-board-pay.php

Not Curbucci, but..

http://www.philly.com/philly/busine...o_remove_leaders_of_Hershey_Trust_boards.html

Cobucci "investigated" the Trust when running for Gov. while AG, then when he was ousted, he stuck his nose right into the pig trough.
 
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Get the f__k out of here with the grooming knowledge....I didn't know the "grooming technic" of a child until the Paterno report was made and the different levels of grooming & pedophilia was explained. Do you really think Joe knew about "groooooming?
Are you a healthcare provider? Did you know JS was investigated in 1998?

Daddy-O and Dranov are healthcare providers; Schultz, TC and Spanier knew about 1998.

These are all things you don't/didn't have knowledge of.
 
Get the f__k out of here with the grooming knowledge....I didn't know the "grooming technic" of a child until the Paterno report was made and the different levels of grooming & pedophilia was explained. Do you really think Joe knew about "groooooming?

And, I said, even Joe didn't pick up on it. But, when he informed C/S/S he should have been made aware of it, though.
 
And, I said, even Joe didn't pick up on it. But, when he informed C/S/S he should have been made aware of it, though.
Are you a healthcare provider? Did you know JS was investigated in 1998?

The CYAss's child protection services are..... how did the groooooming sneak past them.
"go away kid, ya bother me." W.C. Fields. Would you leave it go already, Sherlock, why did everyone know about the 1998 incident, I thought an unfounded case was expunged from record.
Joe didn't pick up on this......Joe's question: "What is this that a man does with a boy"?
 
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The event that sealed the deal for me regarding a TSM cover-up was when we learned all "victim" settlements included a waiver stating the "victims" couldn't legally go after TSM. My honest belief is it had more to do with politics (favors, laundering, etc), but I won't rule out a pedo ring since two years after shutting down TSM it popped up in Canada.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/n...rested-canadian-child-pornography-f2D11599561
 
The event that sealed the deal for me regarding a TSM cover-up was when we learned all "victim" settlements included a waiver stating the "victims" couldn't legally go after TSM. My honest belief is it had more to do with politics (favors, laundering, etc), but I won't rule out a pedo ring since two years after shutting down TSM it popped up in Canada.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/n...rested-canadian-child-pornography-f2D11599561

IIRC, it was mentioned that the trustees involved with the BOT in university business were covered by the university in any liabilities & monies generated in civil suits, but not covered by TSM.
 
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Corbett was part of it, why did he put it on the back burners when he was AG? And TSM donated $600k or more to his campaign.
 
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The CYAss's child protection services are..... how did the groooooming sneak past them.
"go away kid, ya bother me." W.C. Fields. Would you leave it go already, Sherlock, why did everyone know about the 1998 incident, I thought an unfounded case was expunged from record.
Joe didn't pick up on this......Joe's question: "What is this that a man does with a boy"?

You're still ignoring some FACTS:

1) MM called Daddy-O from his office minutes after seeing "something". Now, he wouldn't do that of they were horsing around.

2) The three musketeers held a members only meeting that very night to discuss......horseplay????

3) Spanier’s own Email talks about being liable. Liable over horseplay?
 
No. Hell no. A pedo "ring."??? Just how many pedophiles (and in positions of power, no less) does one think are actually out there?!?!?!?!?

If there is a conspiracy (which I doubt, but do at least entertain), it would be more along the lines of financial improprieties with The Second Mile. A rare occasion where I agree with marshall23.
 
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No. Originally the whole Sandusky thing was going to die in a grand jury - until Spanier had the nerve to stand up to Tom Corbett over the budget and those pesky vocal climate guys on his campus who are anti-fossil fuel...et voilà - the Sandusky file suddenly gains traction.

Corbett wanted Spanier's hide nailed to his wall as a trophy kill. Fina and his Public Corruption Unit gunslingers were just the guys to do it. Use a grand jury, target the individual, develop a flip strategy, put the screws to Cynthia Baldwin and light a dumpster fire on the steps of Old Main.

Media shitstorm happens with the Paterno name. Jeezus H. Christ - THE NCAA just swam up looking for blood! So NOT part of the plan. We have to double down - so we manipulate a few emails, and let Louis Freeh and Twitter do the dirty work in July 2012.

More media shitstorm happens. Corbett & Fina continue with the mantra of "successful prosecution of Sandusky" "moral obligation" yada yada...distracting from the gasoline smell on their hands.

Now, whatever the hell was going on over at the Second Mile.......that was what Lynne "One Tough Cookie" Abraham was supposed to find out. However, we now know she was just window dressing until the shitstorm blew past their offices and settled up on campus. Lynne was then told to take a hike.

I dunno - the Second Mile crew were involved in Swinging and partying at the Autoport and now Gigi's, a lot of cash was being brought in, lots of social climbing & political influence with this gang, lax oversight of whatever the hell their founder, chairman and figurehead was doing with Second Mile kids, they wanted to build an $11 MILLION campus out by the airport....lots of questions still need to be answered.
 
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