Could Mesenbrink Win the 2024 Hodge Trophy?

[NittanyLion84]

They are already starting to talk about Penn State’s Freshman Phenom!

 

[El-Jefe]

No chance this year unless Carter and Aaron both lose.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

We've never had the top 3 vote getters though.....

 

[jmadden1998]

We've never had the top 3 vote getters though.....

 

[ss7]

We've never had the top 3 vote getters though.....

PSU has had #1 and #2 three times (2012, 2018, 2019). PSU had #1, #2, and #4 in 2012.

 

[orange nole]

Seems to me that too much of the Hodge is built on reputation and pedigree before said season, and not purely on the season itself. Unless guys like Starocci and Brooks aren’t undefeated, not a realistic chance imo. Even if MM beat Carr and KOT on the way to a title and undefeated season, wouldn’t matter.

 

[RB-Old]

They're saying Carter shouldn't win and that the Hodge doesn't take into account what happened in previous seasons. I guess they're unaware of Derringer taking another Hodge from Zain even though he deserved it a lot more.

 

[McScoreley]

They're saying Carter shouldn't win and that the Hodge doesn't take into account what happened in previous seasons. I guess they're unaware of Derringer taking another Hodge from Zain even though he deserved it a lot more.

That criteria technically changed.

 

[McScoreley]

My guess and my guess only is if Starocci and Brooks both win out then they're going to do joint between them.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

My guess and my guess only is if Starocci and Brooks both win out then they're going to do joint between them.

 

[El-Jefe]

That criteria technically changed.

Doesn't matter. As long as the criteria are not weighted, they're merely suggestions.

 

[Agoodnap]

My guess and my guess only is if Starocci and Brooks both win out then they're going to do joint between them.

Has any team ever had two Hodge winners in the same year?

 

[Random4598375]

Has any team ever had two Hodge winners in the same year?

Just give it to the entire back half of the lineup. LOL.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

This team is poised to set multiple records.

Whats the record for undefeated champs?

 

[Ja1339]

Has any team ever had two Hodge winners in the same year?

We should have had Jason and Bo both win the year Bo won it. If ever there was a year for co-winners, that was it.

 

[jmadden1998]

This team is poised to set multiple records.

Whats the record for undefeated champs?

2022 Penn St. RBY, Lee and Starocci were all undefeated champs. Brooks and Dean were also champs but each had 1 loss. But remember, it was a shortened season and the Ivies didn’t compete so we have to put an asterisk next to it. 😂😂

Penn St had 5 other years with 2 undefeated champs.

2017 Zain and Nolf
2018 Zain and Nickal (Nolf had the medical forfeit)
2019 Nolf and Nickal
2021 RBY and Brooks
2023 Starocci and Brooks

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

2022 Penn St. RBY, Lee and Starocci were all undefeated champs. Brooks and Dean were also champs but each had 1 loss. But remember, it was a shortened season and the Ivies didn’t compete so we have to put an asterisk next to it. 😂😂

Penn St had 5 other years with 2 undefeated champs.

2017 Zain and Nolf
2018 Zain and Nickal (Nolf had the medical forfeit)
2019 Nolf and Nickal
2021 RBY and Brooks
2023 Starocci and Brooks

Seems strange that DT and Ed arent in this group

 

[El-Jefe]

We should have had Jason and Bo both win the year Bo won it. If ever there was a year for co-winners, that was it.

And that was just a matter of unlucky timing. Had they competed the year after the Steveson/Lee split award, they may well have shared it too.

 

[Random4598375]

Seems strange that DT and Ed arent in this group

The bar of greatness at PSU has actually been upped since their era somehow, which is ironic since Cael's dynasty is going to end when they left.

 

[jmadden1998]

The bar of greatness at PSU has actually been upped since their era somehow, which is ironic since Cael's dynasty is going to end when they left.

Taylor and Ruth were both undefeated champs in 2012. I was using wrestlestat initially but data only goes to 2014 there.

 

[WildTurk]

I vote for Brooks right now

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Taylor and Ruth were both undefeated champs in 2012. I was using wrestlestat initially but data only goes to 2014 there.

Soph seasons musta been

 

[El-Jefe]

Soph seasons musta been

Correct

 

[mcpat]

AB hasn’t gone seven minutes.

 

[eddy line]

AB hasn’t gone seven minutes.

Same for Carter.

 

[mcpat]

Same for Carter.

I actually hadn’t realized that. Oops.

 

[jmadden1998]

AB hasn’t gone seven minutes.

Same for Carter.

 

[cms432]

Taylor and Ruth were both undefeated champs in 2012. I was using wrestlestat initially but data only goes to 2014 there.

Molinaro was also an undefeated champ in 2012, so that was another year when PSU had 3 undefeated champs.

 

[jmadden1998]

Molinaro was also an undefeated champ in 2012, so that was another year when PSU had 3 undefeated champs.

Good catch.

 

[McScoreley]

2022 Penn St. RBY, Lee and Starocci were all undefeated champs. Brooks and Dean were also champs but each had 1 loss. But remember, it was a shortened season and the Ivies didn’t compete so we have to put an asterisk next to it. 😂😂

You're getting your seasons mixed up. That was 2021, aka the year Iowa won. So you're right, let's put an asterisk next to that!

 

[Random4598375]

You're getting your seasons mixed up. That was 2021, aka the year Iowa won. So you're right, let's put an asterisk next to that!

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but 2021 was the free year, which also was Starocci’s freshman year (which is why he could win 5 if he so chooses). Starocci’s loss to Washington was that year. In 2021, only RBY and Brooks were undefeated (Lee lost to Eierman in B1Gs).

2022 was the year Iowa was supposed to confirm their mini-dynasty but fell flat on their face. It wasn’t a shortened year, so no asterisk. Madden is wrong about that.

 

[jmadden1998]

You're getting your seasons mixed up. That was 2021, aka the year Iowa won. So you're right, let's put an asterisk next to that!

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but 2021 was the free year, which also was Starocci’s freshman year (which is why he could win 5 if he so chooses). Starocci’s loss to Washington was that year. In 2021, only RBY and Brooks were undefeated (Lee lost to Eierman in B1Gs).

2022 was the year Iowa was supposed to confirm their mini-dynasty but fell flat on their face. It wasn’t a shortened year, so no asterisk. Madden is wrong about that.