CNN medical analyst disagrees with Fauci

jjw165

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That pandemic is over. Hospitalizations are up and deaths can be expected to go up shortly. He is definitely correct about that part. China gave a crappy vaccine to its elderly population and is now struggling with a large Covid wave. Also, he finds it suspicious that Kamala is asymptomatic but is taking Pfizer’s anti-viral Covid pill 💊 nonetheless. How far Fauci has fallen when CNN has turned on him.
 

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covid hospitalizations are 1/4 what they were this time last year and the majority of covid hospitalizations now are incidental

True but a lot of that is becauae people dont think Covid is a death sentence anymore.

There are some really stupid people out there.
 
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covid hospitalizations are 1/4 what they were this time last year and the majority of covid hospitalizations now are incidental
That’s a good point. Is that due to better overall immunity preventing less Covid disease or are more people becoming more comfortable with the disease and not going to the hospital as frequently?
 
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True but a lot of that is becauae people dont think Covid is a death sentence anymore.

There are some really stupid people out there.
That’s what I’m starting to think. People aren’t as apprehensive about the virus. Milder strains of Covid can help with that confidence level.
 

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That’s what I’m starting to think. People aren’t as apprehensive about the virus. Milder strains of Covid can help with that confidence level.

They say milder strains, but IMo it is due to everyone already having exposure.
 

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That pandemic is over. Hospitalizations are up and deaths can be expected to go up shortly. He is definitely correct about that part. China gave a crappy vaccine to its elderly population and is now struggling with a large Covid wave. Also, he finds it suspicious that Kamala is asymptomatic but is taking Pfizer’s anti-viral Covid pill 💊 nonetheless. How far Fauci has fallen when CNN has turned on him.
That's really ok. I disagree with a lot of what fauci says too.
 

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True but a lot of that is becauae people dont think Covid is a death sentence anymore.

There are some really stupid people out there.
It mostly isn't a death sentence. The mortality rate is low, even lower with the newer strains. If you're vaccinated and without cormobidities the mortality rate is incredibly low.

If you're over 80, have comorbidities, and/or haven't had the vaccine you should be very careful.
 

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It mostly isn't a death sentence. The mortality rate is low, even lower with the newer strains. If you're vaccinated and without cormobidities the mortality rate is incredibly low.

If you're over 80, have comorbidities, and/or haven't had the vaccine you should be very careful.

If you are over 80 and have comobities the common cold can kill you.
 
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It mostly isn't a death sentence. The mortality rate is low, even lower with the newer strains. If you're vaccinated and without cormobidities the mortality rate is incredibly low.

If you're over 80, have comorbidities, and/or haven't had the vaccine you should be very careful.
even with the vaccine, vaccinated people are dying almost at the same rate as unvaccinated people now. Vaccinated people accounted for 42% of all deaths in Jan and Feb.

If you are old, be careful.

 
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even with the vaccine, vaccinated people are dying almost at the same rate as unvaccinated people now. Vaccinated people accounted for 42% of all deaths in Jan and Feb.

If you are old, be careful.

The article you posted is a version of an article written by WAPO writers. This article leaves out some informative graphics. One that shows the death numbers have risen significantly for those over 75 since last September/October and declined significantly for the 50-75 and the under 50 age groups. At this time, the 75+ y.o. group made up 63% of deaths, 50-75 made up 34%, and those under 50 made up only 3% while the 75+ y.o. group only made up 34% of deaths back in Sept 21 while the 50-75 made up 52%.

So yes, if you're old, be careful.

Also missing is this statement included with one graphic that shows death rates.

"Unvaccinated still die at a much higher rate​

The share of deaths among vaccinated people has risen, but the rate of death is still many times higher among unvaccinated people. In January and February, unvaccinated people died at about seven times the rate of the fully vaccinated and 20 times the rate of people with boosters, according to a study of deaths among the vaccinated from 23 state and county health departments."

So no, vaccinated people are not dying at almost the same rate.

Here's the link in case it's not behind the paywall.

 

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Remember, when looking at hospitalization/death stats regarding covid, "unvaccinated" often means "vaccination status not yet confirmed yet"
 
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Anyone else slightly pleased that China is struggling with this? I never want to cheer on death, but them having to shut down cities seems like some karma to me.
 

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Anyone else slightly pleased that China is struggling with this? I never want to cheer on death, but them having to shut down cities seems like some karma to me.
I wish the worst on the CCP(government). The citizenry who are locked down are suffering. Some are having trouble getting food delivered. I don’t wish harm to their people that is caused directly by the government. However, if the citizenry were pissed enough to rebel and throw a cog in the CCP’s wheel, I am all for it.
 

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At this time, the 75+ y.o. group made up 63% of deaths, 50-75 made up 34%, and those under 50 made up only 3% while the 75+ y.o. group only made up 34% of deaths back in Sept 21 while the 50-75 made up 52%.
That's not much different than the original variant. This is why we shouldn't have closed the economy. Stay a few feet apart, wash your hands, and maybe wear a mask. But working age people should have worked.
 
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The article you posted is a version of an article written by WAPO writers. This article leaves out some informative graphics. One that shows the death numbers have risen significantly for those over 75 since last September/October and declined significantly for the 50-75 and the under 50 age groups. At this time, the 75+ y.o. group made up 63% of deaths, 50-75 made up 34%, and those under 50 made up only 3% while the 75+ y.o. group only made up 34% of deaths back in Sept 21 while the 50-75 made up 52%.

So yes, if you're old, be careful.

Also missing is this statement included with one graphic that shows death rates.

"Unvaccinated still die at a much higher rate​

The share of deaths among vaccinated people has risen, but the rate of death is still many times higher among unvaccinated people. In January and February, unvaccinated people died at about seven times the rate of the fully vaccinated and 20 times the rate of people with boosters, according to a study of deaths among the vaccinated from 23 state and county health departments."

So no, vaccinated people are not dying at almost the same rate.

Here's the link in case it's not behind the paywall.

Dude, I no longer look at any shit you post. You've proven to be full of shit. And you prove that by posting crap from wapo.

Yawn.
 
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Dude, I no longer look at any shit you post. You've proven to be full of shit. And you prove that by posting crap from wapo.

Yawn.

Pay attention you idiot, the article YOU posted was written by WAPO writers.
 

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The article you posted is a version of an article written by WAPO writers. This article leaves out some informative graphics. One that shows the death numbers have risen significantly for those over 75 since last September/October and declined significantly for the 50-75 and the under 50 age groups. At this time, the 75+ y.o. group made up 63% of deaths, 50-75 made up 34%, and those under 50 made up only 3% while the 75+ y.o. group only made up 34% of deaths back in Sept 21 while the 50-75 made up 52%.

So yes, if you're old, be careful.

Also missing is this statement included with one graphic that shows death rates.

"Unvaccinated still die at a much higher rate​

The share of deaths among vaccinated people has risen, but the rate of death is still many times higher among unvaccinated people. In January and February, unvaccinated people died at about seven times the rate of the fully vaccinated and 20 times the rate of people with boosters, according to a study of deaths among the vaccinated from 23 state and county health departments."

So no, vaccinated people are not dying at almost the same rate.

Here's the link in case it's not behind the paywall.

This guy developed the mRNA technique… has an opinion on the “vaccine“/boosters.

 
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