Cael contract negotiation update

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  1. tikk10

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    Story Jim Carlson at Penn Live:
    http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/06/as_deadline_passes_contract_ne.html

    Essentially, still no news but at least there are statements of the sort you'd like to see while negotiations are ongoing, such as this by Sandy Barbour: "While we do not discuss contract details in sports other than football and basketball, keeping Cael in Happy Valley is important to us and we will continue to work diligently to ensure this is the case."
     
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    Thanks for the update. I'll feel better when I know this thing is signed. I can't believe it hasn't been completed.

    I wonder if he can still actively recruit without a contract signed?
     
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    Penn State has the best college wrestling coach on campus and Barbour can't close the deal by the end of Cael's contract. You can bet the verbally committed Penn State class of 2018 will be getting calls a la 'no guarantee Cael will be there when you graduate' now. I also wonder if Cael can be on anyone's doorstep tonight without a contract. Barbour has taken a no brainer/sure thing and raised unnecessary questions and concerns. She needs to fix this and fix it pronto.
     
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  4. PSU Mike

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    Did she name a new assistant AD to the task?
     
  5. Lion8286

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    Looks like James Franklin just signed a 5 year extension with no formal announcement.

    Maybe Cael did or could do the same??
     
  6. Chickenman Testa

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    They might very well have a month to month extension clause to work out final details.

    People always want to have something to freak out about.
     
  7. pish69

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    Guarentee other coaches will be using this against us though. Not good no matter how likely he will be to sign.

    Recruits want to know the coach will be there
     
  8. nitlion6

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    Just guessing.
    It is done and the 2018 class already knows.
    I do not understand why not making an announcement is now the PSU way.
     
  9. Lion-around

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    Didn't Penn State announce the extension of Gadowski's contract as men's hockey coach?
     
  10. El-Jefe

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    Recruits loathe negative recruiting. Just ask Spencer Lee. It tells the recruits you can't sell your program on its own merits.

    And it will backfire big time -- remember that recruits can't sign until November. How is Coach A gonna look when he talks about PSU coaching instability, only to have it resolved by then? Like a liar, that's how.
     
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    Doesn't have to be formal but it has to be known. How the heck can you recruit if the players don't know who the coach is?
     
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    I thought they did.
     
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    It was announced, after the fact, that his contract had been "amended".
     
  14. El-Jefe

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    As long as it's not Heather Lyke, we'll be OK.
     
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    I disagree. It's not negative when your telling the truth.

    You are correct about nothing being signed until November but why even give these others schools even an opening for these types of conversations?

    Makes no sense to me
     
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    Some people need a Goofer happy pill.
     
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  17. dunkej01

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    Personally I think the dresser situation made Ryan, Brands, Cael and their staffs much richer. Any agent worth his salt would be using those new hires in negotiations. no disrespect to dresser and their staff, but if they are worth those dollars our guys are worth a magnitude higher.

    queue Jerry McGuire..............
     
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    A new obsession after Suriano-Gate.
     
  19. El-Jefe

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    So let's throw some meat on the bone: hypothetically Zeke Jones tells RBY that Cael's contract expired. RBY asks if Cael Sanderson really isn't gonna be coach next year. Jones answers exactly how without coming across as a major idiot?

    The recruits deserve more credit than this. If they're smart enough to get into PSU, they're smart enough to not fall for that.
     
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    So, is he going to Rutgers?
     
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    Yes, and I've heard he'll be replaced by Lizak who is also homesick and looking to leave Minny
     
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    Psu is so Loaded, people need something to discuss even if it's pretend play
     
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    Meh, as Spencer Lee mentioned, negative recruiting in the world of college wrestling is just plain idiotic. The type of kids Penn State recruits would see right through it, especially since they all know Sanderson's program is head and shoulders above all others and has been since these kids were in like 3rd or 4th grade. He'll get his contract.
     
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    Yes, FOS is reporting a 5 year extension. Source: Solomon Ennis, Curtis Ennis's son. Not the Athletic Department.
     
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    Does the NCAA require a person to have a contract to be the head coach? Does Penn State require it?
     
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    Typically, the original contract has language that he/she will continue to work on a month-to-month basis until a new contract is signed, or one of the parties terminates the agreement.
     
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    Dunk, how can I help *you* help Cael?
     
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    He had us at Hello.
     
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    How much does a human head weigh?
     
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    8 Lbs. Caels is 10. Spyker's is 16 pounds and getting bigger.
     
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    Also not sure what the state budget has to do with anything as the athletic department is self sustaining.
     
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    Lazy journaliism. Google a couple facts and don't bother to find out if they're relevant.

    Then again, it's one step up from guys like Foley who can't even be bothered to Google.
     
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    They don't do journalism. Or so sez Willie.
     
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    Yea, even is she has to take a pay cut! That's how I define diligence.
     
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    The fact that this wasn't done at least a year in advance, to me, is incomprehensible. To put things into perspective, Penn State probably has enough talent in the pipeline, right now, to win the next six national championships in a row. Why Sandy would want to play Russian Roulette with that, I have no idea.
     
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    We're wondering the same as she's sat mat side for every virtuoso demolition and went to Nationals and saw the five Champions in a row and the 6th National Title in 8 years.

    Is Cael asking for a Gablesque Statue out front? At this rate, Cael might have to fork over the cash himself for it or ask Cody and Casey to start a slush fund for it. o_O
     
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    I'm not sure if the statue of Cael should be in front of Rec Hall or the State Capitol in Harrisburg, though.
     
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