Brooks non-issue

[js8793]

Apparently, AB popped for Adderall at U23s and needed a temporary waiver to compete at trials. Still not 100% sure he'll be cleared for the Olympics, though I suspect he will. He apparently has a script, but did not file paperwork properly (or something like that).

I've always thought it was weird that such a commonly prescribed drug without obvious performance enhancing capabilities is on the banned list. Why not ban coffee while we're at it? Would really suck if this keeps him out.

 

[AndEEss]

Apparently, AB popped for Adderall at U23s and needed a temporary waiver to compete at trials. Still not 100% sure he'll be cleared for the Olympics, though I suspect he will. He apparently has a script, but did not file paperwork properly (or something like that).

I've always thought it was weird that such a commonly prescribed drug without obvious performance enhancing capabilities is on the banned list. Why not ban coffee while we're at it? Would really suck if this keeps him out.

It's called a TUE.

My next door neighbor is the head of science for USADA. Talked about this exact issue a couple months ago and apparently it's more common than you'd think. Hopefully they can grant AB a retroactive TUE and the issue goes away.

 

[AgSurfer]

Apparently, AB popped for Adderall at U23s and needed a temporary waiver to compete at trials. Still not 100% sure he'll be cleared for the Olympics, though I suspect he will. He apparently has a script, but did not file paperwork properly (or something like that).

I've always thought it was weird that such a commonly prescribed drug without obvious performance enhancing capabilities is on the banned list. Why not ban coffee while we're at it? Would really suck if this keeps him out.

Some drugs can cover up others in the tests. I remember a female gymnast was hit a few years ago for taking Sudafed for a cold because Sudafed masks some PEDs.

But I agree, if someone has a legit medical reason for taking a medication, they shouldn't be dinged for taking it while competing. Personally, I think the anti-drug stuff is getting a little out of control.

 

[Random4598375]

Apparently, AB popped for Adderall at U23s and needed a temporary waiver to compete at trials. Still not 100% sure he'll be cleared for the Olympics, though I suspect he will. He apparently has a script, but did not file paperwork properly (or something like that).

I've always thought it was weird that such a commonly prescribed drug without obvious performance enhancing capabilities is on the banned list. Why not ban coffee while we're at it? Would really suck if this keeps him out.

The PED properties for Adderall (and other stimulants related to amphetamines) for wrestlers specifically is weight loss. That shouldn't really be an issue for AB at 86, though, I don't think.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Well one would think he had a TUE from the NCAA or he’d have had issues there. Weird that they wouldn’t file with UWW though.

 

[GableBeer]

Mineo said on the fb group he got the temporary TUE after competition

 

[amattaro]

As an objective observer, convince me this is different than Cox missing weigh-in time or the Iowa boys violating the gambling rules.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

With news like this popping, how am I supposed to get any work done?

 

[McScoreley]

This sounds like the Jordan Oliver situation, which did not end well for JO.

 

[El-Jefe]

As an objective observer, convince me this is different than Cox missing weigh-in time or the Iowa boys violating the gambling rules.

Did the Iowa team doctor write them a prescription for gambling?

 

[Creek Side]

So David Taylor it is? Guess we'll see.

 

[backdrft76]

Here is Mineo's tweet for those that didn't read it in the other 2 threads where it was already posted and being discussed:

 

[nerfstate]

This sounds like the Jordan Oliver situation, which did not end well for JO.

Yeah, I've been trying to dig into that more--I don't remember clearly--but found reports JO didn't report his script for Adderall at all. In this case, Mineo at least is saying AB did report it--but didn't fill in the paperwork correctly? Does that make a difference, if true? JO got a full year ban the first time.

 

[GableBeer]

Where’s Ironbird at he’d be having a heyday with this development

 

[El-Jefe]

Well one would think he had a TUE from the NCAA or he’d have had issues there. Weird that they wouldn’t file with UWW though.

Or maybe they did and UWW ignored it?

That would be comparable to when Snacks flunked his skin check at Ironman because he had a prescription and written clearance from a nationally-cited expert, but the local Akron doctor knew better.

 

[psumacw]

did he get stripped of his u23 gold? i feel like it'd be weird to allow him to keep that but not let him participate in a tournament a year later

 

[AndEEss]

This is one of those things where, if you are taking anything at all, whether it's an allergy medication or to treat your hemorrhoids, you write an email to USADA and ask them to help you out with completing the required documentation.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

did he get stripped of his u23 gold? i feel like it'd be weird to allow him to keep that but not let him participate in a tournament a year later

That’s what I’m saying. If he tested positive at U23s and didn’t have an exemption and they’ve known this for 6 months wouldn’t they have already DQ’d him from U23s

 

[El-Jefe]

This is one of those things where, if you are taking anything at all, whether it's an allergy medication or to treat your hemorrhoids, you write an email to USADA and ask them to help you out with completing the required documentation.

I look forward to reading Ironbird's waiver application for his hemorrhoid meds.

 

[nerfstate]

That’s what I’m saying. If he tested positive at U23s and didn’t have an exemption and they’ve known this for 6 months wouldn’t they have already DQ’d him from U23s

To say nothing of how all this might make Mirasola, Dieringer and Zahid feel about the fairness of granting Aaron a waiver for OTT if the hammer was to follow.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

It certainly feels like we’re only getting a small part of the story here.

But it also shows that if you fail a UWW test (still an if, as far as we know) it should be made public immediately.

 

[Dwayne_Johnson33]

That’s what I’m saying. If he tested positive at U23s and didn’t have an exemption and they’ve known this for 6 months wouldn’t they have already DQ’d him from U23s

FWIW Jordan Oliver’s failed PED test occurred in April 2017 but the ruling didn’t come down until January 2018.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

FWIW Jordan Oliver’s failed PED test occurred in April 2017 but the ruling didn’t come down until January 2018.

IIRC we knew about it well before the official ruling in January though

 

[Dwayne_Johnson33]

IIRC we knew about it well before the official ruling in January though

This is true Oliver wasn’t permitted to compete at World Team Trials in June 2017 that was when it was revealed why. I suppose if Mineo’s information is correct and AB was granted a temporary waiver to compete at trials maybe that’s why any release of the alleged failed test was withheld that’s just me guessing.

 

[Hawky42]

Just the tip of the iceberg

 

[Reslo]

Just the tip of the iceberg

And the Hawkeyes are the Titanic.

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Just the tip of the iceberg

Hope is a mother****er.

 

[Agoodnap]

It's a diabolical plan to keep DT from accepting Okie St offers and therefore in State College to prepare for the Olympics in case AB gets disqualified.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

It's a diabolical plan to keep DT from accepting Okie St offers and therefore in State College to prepare for the Olympics in case AB gets disqualified.

Cael’s always got a plan

 

[Bob_Anderson]

A real bad look for Brooks. Always tough to shake being a PED user. Does this discredit his past success? Seems like it should.

Nothing like jumping to conclusions without all the information.

 

[McScoreley]

Look at posting history of some and it should be obvious who are Iowa trolls.

 

[HOCKEYGOD11]

A real bad look for Brooks. Always tough to shake being a PED user. Does this discredit his past success? Seems like it should.

 

[El-Jefe]

A real bad look for Brooks. Always tough to shake being a PED user. Does this discredit his past success? Seems like it should.

 

[Cstroke]

A real bad look for Brooks. Always tough to shake being a PED user. Does this discredit his past success? Seems like it should.

Sooooooo... Iron bird is on hiatus from his "village idiot" position and two of his fanboys slide on in to take his job.

 

[HOCKEYGOD11]

Changes Brooks' name for anybody else, Yianni or Stieber, for example (god forbid the Brands or any other Iowa legend) .... if it comes to light they used PEDs, that doesn't make you question their legacy? Can't imagine it wouldn't. It damn sure should - although fans of his are going to cross another bridge and downplay. PED users stain sports - no way around it unless you have blinders on.

 

[a_mshaffer]

I would say that the association of PED is on the steroid and illicit drug front - not from a common every day prescription. But man, entertainment galore with the speculation here and the OSU coaching offer(s)!!

 

[bourbon n blues]

Apparently, AB popped for Adderall at U23s and needed a temporary waiver to compete at trials. Still not 100% sure he'll be cleared for the Olympics, though I suspect he will. He apparently has a script, but did not file paperwork properly (or something like that).

I've always thought it was weird that such a commonly prescribed drug without obvious performance enhancing capabilities is on the banned list. Why not ban coffee while we're at it? Would really suck if this keeps him out.

Oh it does have performance enhancing properties, it is basically and amphetamine.

 

[bourbon n blues]

The PED properties for Adderall (and other stimulants related to amphetamines) for wrestlers specifically is weight loss. That shouldn't really be an issue for AB at 86, though, I don't think.

It's more than that actually, it can have effects on focus and potentially strength, not in a steroid sense, but as a nervous system, stimulant. I do not know if you realize caffeine is a banned substance at certain levels.

 

[bourbon n blues]

Some drugs can cover up others in the tests. I remember a female gymnast was hit a few years ago for taking Sudafed for a cold because Sudafed masks some PEDs.

But I agree, if someone has a legit medical reason for taking a medication, they shouldn't be dinged for taking it while competing. Personally, I think the anti-drug stuff is getting a little out of control.

Yeah, it gets crazy with OTC drugs, supplements, and prescriptions. Some are allowed but only at certain levels.

 

[Mat Burn]

The heart medicine I am on is a banned substance because it slows your heart rate. Advantage for participants in shooting sports.

Guess I will never compete in the Olympics.