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Barkley's run vs USC

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Watching ESPN2 for the first time in ages because I'm meeting a client at a pub, but I had no idea how much coverage Saquon Barkley was getting in all these predraft shows. He's like the only thing anyone talks about, which is great... but the one thing that irks me, however, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs instead of one spectacular run. Am i alone on this?

Saquon's run looks best from @Obliviax' sig pic where you watch it in one continuous motion in real time. He takes the handoff from Trace and you figure he'll be dropped in the backfield by the DE, then he pops outside where 3 defenders meet him at the LOS, but he makes a violent cut upfield and splits all 3, and then a safety is about to plow right through him and Saquon breaks his ankle -- a split second later, he somehow evades a diving linebacker and then Chris Godwin escorts him in for the rest of the way.

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruins what might be the best run in Penn State history? Why do they never show it as one comtinuous clip? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how Saquon sets up every single move.

 
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Watching ESPN2 for the first time in ages because I'm meeting a client at a pub, but I had no idea how much coverage Saquon Barkley was getting in all these predraft shows. He's like the only thing anyone talks about, which is great... but the one thing that irks me, though, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs. Am i alone on this?

Saquon's run looks best from @Obliviax' sig pic where you watch it in one continuous clip in real time. He takes the handoff from Trace and you figure he'll be dropped in the backfield by the DE, then he pops outside where 3 defenders meet him at the LOS, but he makes a violent cut upfield and splits all 3, and then the safety is about to plow right through him and Saquon breaks his ankle, he somehow evades a diving linebacker and then Chris Godwin escorts him the rest of the way.

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruin what might be the best run in Penn State history? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how he sets up every single move.

It’s the best run I’ve ever seen in football. Half that USC D is in the NFL. UNREAL.
 
A second after the handoff, you think he'll be lucky to get back to the LOS. Then, you think "ok, he got to the outside, perhaps he'll get a yard or two"...then he makes that jump cut and you say "hey, he's going to pick up 5 to 8 yards!"...one more jump cut and you scream "Sayquon Gone!".

you also see, from that angle as opposed to the network tv angle, he was GONE. Those two CB's/S look like they are close from the sideline but he's still got five yards on them when he crosses the goal.
 
That’s not only the best run in Penn State history....that’s an all-time great for the sport of football.
Finally, we agree. I would love to see someone post a clip that matches Barkley's run. If it exists, I haven't seen it. Therefore, Saquon Barkley's 79-yard touchdown run against USC in the Rose Bowl is the best run in American football history.
 
Watching ESPN2 for the first time in ages because I'm meeting a client at a pub, but I had no idea how much coverage Saquon Barkley was getting in all these predraft shows. He's like the only thing anyone talks about, which is great... but the one thing that irks me, though, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs. Am i alone on this?

Saquon's run looks best from @Obliviax' sig pic where you watch it in one continuous clip in real time. He takes the handoff from Trace and you figure he'll be dropped in the backfield by the DE, then he pops outside where 3 defenders meet him at the LOS, but he makes a violent cut upfield and splits all 3, and then the safety is about to plow right through him and Saquon breaks his ankle, he somehow evades a diving linebacker and then Chris Godwin escorts him the rest of the way.

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruin what might be the best run in Penn State history? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how he sets up every single move.

I shot that video from the stands. I've probably watched it a hundred times. As the TV clips have played over and over I've had similar thoughts to yours about the changing camera angles.

Was glad I actually brought a camera with a zoom lens. If I had been using my phone the players would have been specks. The lady next to me was going nuts at 17 seconds into the video....hit my arm...hence the shaking.

It terms of Saquon's athleticism it looks like a video game clip to me even after all those viewings.

What a run. What a player. What a game.
 
but the one thing that irks me, though, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs. Am i alone on this?

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruins what might be the best run in Penn State history? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how he sets up every single move.

I may have an explanation for ya on that one. Because these draft preview shows are showcasing the player, the producers like to use fast-paced snazzy video because they want to keep your attention since they think the viewer has an average attention of span of 2 1/2 seconds. It's the TV people overthinking things like they often do.
 
A second after the handoff, you think he'll be lucky to get back to the LOS. Then, you think "ok, he got to the outside, perhaps he'll get a yard or two"...then he makes that jump cut and you say "hey, he's going to pick up 5 to 8 yards!"...one more jump cut and you scream "Sayquon Gone!".

Of all the incredible aspects of that run, the most impressive IMO was the acceleration roughly from the 30 yard line to the 40 yard line; he's made several moves and jukes, but quickly gathers himself and puts distance between himself and the first two waves of defenders, followed by a hard left turn across the field over to the opposite side and a race to the end zone.
 
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One great run. No doubt the best player in the draft this year. Should go #1 IMO. Yeah, everyone needs QBs but he is a game changer...
 
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Watching ESPN2 for the first time in ages because I'm meeting a client at a pub, but I had no idea how much coverage Saquon Barkley was getting in all these predraft shows. He's like the only thing anyone talks about, which is great... but the one thing that irks me, however, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs instead of one spectacular run. Am i alone on this?

Saquon's run looks best from @Obliviax' sig pic where you watch it in one continuous motion in real time. He takes the handoff from Trace and you figure he'll be dropped in the backfield by the DE, then he pops outside where 3 defenders meet him at the LOS, but he makes a violent cut upfield and splits all 3, and then a safety is about to plow right through him and Saquon breaks his ankle -- a split second later, he somehow evades a diving linebacker and then Chris Godwin escorts him in for the rest of the way.

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruins what might be the best run in Penn State history? Why do they never show it as one comtinuous clip? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how Saquon sets up every single move.



“Woo!!”

“Woo Hoo Hoo Hoooo!!”


“Woo Hoo Hoo Hoooo!!”

“Wooooooo!!”


The happy fan said it well.
 
Watching ESPN2 for the first time in ages because I'm meeting a client at a pub, but I had no idea how much coverage Saquon Barkley was getting in all these predraft shows. He's like the only thing anyone talks about, which is great... but the one thing that irks me, however, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs instead of one spectacular run. Am i alone on this?

Saquon's run looks best from @Obliviax' sig pic where you watch it in one continuous motion in real time. He takes the handoff from Trace and you figure he'll be dropped in the backfield by the DE, then he pops outside where 3 defenders meet him at the LOS, but he makes a violent cut upfield and splits all 3, and then a safety is about to plow right through him and Saquon breaks his ankle -- a split second later, he somehow evades a diving linebacker and then Chris Godwin escorts him in for the rest of the way.

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruins what might be the best run in Penn State history? Why do they never show it as one comtinuous clip? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how Saquon sets up every single move.


It is, and I am confident will always be, both my favorite and most impressive run I've ever seen.
 
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The greatest football player ever. He also has other highlights.

Great player. Bold and likable acting style. Mega talent.

But, at this early stage, Saquon’s best seem better.

However, Barkley hasn’t yet played an NFL down. So there is no comparison to Jim Brown’s remarkable toughness, power and tenacity that blasted him to a jaw dropping 12,000+ yards.l in the NFL.

Both are amazing talents, along with other
greats featured in this thread.
 
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Not to take anything away from Jim but my god everyone looks like they’re running through molasses.

Barry sanders had some jaw droppers. #10 is actually reminiscent of Barkley’s usc run.

Sanders is closest IMO. Brown and Sayers were playing against guys who weren't anywhere near the athlete they were. Barkley is playing against guys who trained their whole life for the NFL - comparison isn't even close.
 
I think there are other injustices in the world that would be a more deserving target for your outrage... Lets be thankful for all of the positive Barkley and Penn State coverage recently and not split hairs over which camera angles they should show in the highlights.
 
Watching ESPN2 for the first time in ages because I'm meeting a client at a pub, but I had no idea how much coverage Saquon Barkley was getting in all these predraft shows. He's like the only thing anyone talks about, which is great... but the one thing that irks me, however, is how they keep playing that run in the Rose Bowl in a clip that changes camera angles like 17 times. It looks like 17 different runs instead of one spectacular run. Am i alone on this?

Saquon's run looks best from @Obliviax' sig pic where you watch it in one continuous motion in real time. He takes the handoff from Trace and you figure he'll be dropped in the backfield by the DE, then he pops outside where 3 defenders meet him at the LOS, but he makes a violent cut upfield and splits all 3, and then a safety is about to plow right through him and Saquon breaks his ankle -- a split second later, he somehow evades a diving linebacker and then Chris Godwin escorts him in for the rest of the way.

Can we agree that the multi-angle camera clip totally ruins what might be the best run in Penn State history? Why do they never show it as one comtinuous clip? Here's another good view from the stands. You can see how Saquon sets up every single move.


Perhaps the best, perhaps not. However, this is one of the most important runs in Penn State history.

At this point in the game, or shortly thereafter, the entire CFB universe was watching the PSU game.

Barkley's run, and the sheer excitement of the game, put PSU back on the map.

LdN
 
Great block by McGovern on the LB, and he was only a freshman at the time. He pushed him out of the initial hole halfway across the field. McGovern is going to be one of the best centers in the country this year, I bet.......
 
Perhaps the best, perhaps not. However, this is one of the most important runs in Penn State history.

At this point in the game, or shortly thereafter, the entire CFB universe was watching the PSU game.

Barkley's run, and the sheer excitement of the game, put PSU back on the map.

LdN
Agreed...interestingly, the top two offensive players from that game might go 1/2 in the NFL draft if the Browns take Darnold and the Giants Barkley.
 
Midnighter: I'm about as big a Saquon Barkley fan as you're gonna find outside Coplay, Pennsylvania, and that run he pulled off against the Trojans was absolutely phenomenal, but I think you could find other runs that rank up there with it. Marshawn's run included. The tackling may have been suspect, but I think Marshawn himself had something to do with that.

I also watched that Jim Brown highlight reel. It reflects Brown breaking a whole LOT of tackles, and having the speed to pull away from both LB's and DB's. I think Jim Brown is without question the best RB of all time, but entertain the hope that Saquon, before he is done, will cause some folks to reexamine that question.
 
Midnighter: I'm about as big a Saquon Barkley fan as you're gonna find outside Coplay, Pennsylvania, and that run he pulled off against the Trojans was absolutely phenomenal, but I think you could find other runs that rank up there with it. Marshawn's run included. The tackling may have been suspect, but I think Marshawn himself had something to do with that.

I also watched that Jim Brown highlight reel. It reflects Brown breaking a whole LOT of tackles, and having the speed to pull away from both LB's and DB's. I think Jim Brown is without question the best RB of all time, but entertain the hope that Saquon, before he is done, will cause some folks to reexamine that question.
True....but you are also comparing a college RB to Pros.

Old timers will tell you Earnie Davis, who died of Leukemia without ever playing an NFL game, was the best.

For my money, the best I've ever seen was OJ Simpson in college and pro. He also had a great mix of size and speed, like Barkley. At the time, OJ was an olympic quality sprinter (ran the 4x400 in the olympics) and was ~ 210 lbs (at the time, like 230 today).

What separate Barkley is his pass catching and pass blocking. Also, Barkley hasn't fumbled in his last 21 games. Guys like Sayers and Sanders weren't big enough to be good blockers. Brown was, but that wasn't the NFL game at the time.

I hope whoever drafts Barkley builds a team around him. i don't know if he will be considered better than JB, but he'll be in the same paragraph if he can stay healthy for five or more years.
 
Perhaps the best, perhaps not. However, this is one of the most important runs in Penn State history.

At this point in the game, or shortly thereafter, the entire CFB universe was watching the PSU game.

Barkley's run, and the sheer excitement of the game, put PSU back on the map.

LdN


I think that’s a pretty fair take on it.
 
Midnighter: I'm about as big a Saquon Barkley fan as you're gonna find outside Coplay, Pennsylvania, and that run he pulled off against the Trojans was absolutely phenomenal, but I think you could find other runs that rank up there with it. Marshawn's run included. The tackling may have been suspect, but I think Marshawn himself had something to do with that.

I also watched that Jim Brown highlight reel. It reflects Brown breaking a whole LOT of tackles, and having the speed to pull away from both LB's and DB's. I think Jim Brown is without question the best RB of all time, but entertain the hope that Saquon, before he is done, will cause some folks to reexamine that question.

Agreed, I think a healthy sayers would have been the best. And remember Brown quit at the height of his career and played in a shorter season.
 
True....but you are also comparing a college RB to Pros.

Old timers will tell you Earnie Davis, who died of Leukemia without ever playing an NFL game, was the best.

For my money, the best I've ever seen was OJ Simpson in college and pro. He also had a great mix of size and speed, like Barkley. At the time, OJ was an olympic quality sprinter (ran the 4x400 in the olympics) and was ~ 210 lbs (at the time, like 230 today).

What separate Barkley is his pass catching and pass blocking. Also, Barkley hasn't fumbled in his last 21 games. Guys like Sayers and Sanders weren't big enough to be good blockers. Brown was, but that wasn't the NFL game at the time.

I hope whoever drafts Barkley builds a team around him. i don't know if he will be considered better than JB, but he'll be in the same paragraph if he can stay healthy for five or more years.
If you check back I posted Sayers and Brown videos after at least one person claimed Sawuon’s rose bowl run was the greatest football run of all time .
 
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If you check back I posted Sayers and Brown videos after at least one person claimed Sawuon’s rose bowl run was the greatest football run of all time .

I did, and still contend it's the best run I've ever seen, mostly because he didn't rely on a bunch of bad or broken tackles to make it look good. And the speed with which he changed direction and quality of opponent justify that for me.
 
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