As we go around and around on this issue of selecting

[demlion]

I think Miami would have won that matchup seven or eight out of 10 times, but Penn State definitely outmatched them on that night and deserved the championship.

Lol. Perfect. And unless I am mistaken, Miami was favored by the BETTING experts, AND ranked higher in the polls, correct? Point is they are not going to play 10 times. They are going to play ONCE Whoever wins that is the champ. To come along behind that and pretend it is a 10 game series Miami would have won x number of games is ridiculous, isn't it?

 

[wilbury]

Some people (far too many) cloud over solutions to problems.... by suggesting "solutions" to non-problems.

Agreed. How many times since the playoff system started has a team other than the best won a national championship? So why change anything?

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

The problem is that someone is "selecting" teams for a "playoff". Real playoffs don't select teams- there is a clear path that they follow to earn a spot- and they either do or they don't get in- there are no votes, or committees, or opinions involved.

This. If winning isn't the number one way to get to a championship, then it's a beauty contest. The whole system is flawed because they've stated their goal is to get the four 'best' teams into the playoffs, not the ones who win to get there. Makes zero sense. Re-work the whole thing - begin with automatic bids for conference champions and work backwards from there. If we need to get to eight, then the next three 'at large' bids should be subject to the eye test, SOS, best win/best loss, subjective crap the current selection process uses to pick the top four. This year, we'd have:

Bama
OSU
Clemson
Oklahoma
Washington
Notre Dame
Georgia/Michigan
UCF

Make. Wins. Great. Again.

 

[demlion]

This. If winning isn't the number one way to get to a championship, then it's a beauty contest. The whole system is flawed because they've stated their goal is to get the four 'best' teams into the playoffs, not the ones who win to get there. Makes zero sense. Re-work the whole thing - begin with automatic bids for conference champions and work backwards from there.

Yes. Once winning stops being the sole criterion, it stops being a sport.

 

[nittnee]

So you think it's better to have a multiple loss team go to the playoff versus what we have now? It's not the playoff that's broken, it's the conference championship game. We don't need them, they aren't important. If you want to expand the playoff, get rid of divisions in conferences, eliminate the championship game, force an 8 game conference schedule, and then pick the top 6 or 8 teams at the end for a playoff.

Yes. If that is the pre-determined way YOU WIN IT ON THE FIELD, then that is who goes to the playoffs.

The notion that games are more meaningful now because "every game matters" is not even correct. Right now, any two-loss team can kiss their playoff chances goodbye. Northwestern had three losses after four games. ZERO chance to get into the playoffs, hence from the "every game matters" perspective, their entire conference schedule "didn't matter". If they could have still gotten into the playoffs by winning the B1G West and then the CCG, their remaining schedule would have had much more meaning.