AS THE BIRD TURNS

Cstroke

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It's probably safe to say Spencer will be on a limited schedule this year. I doubt they risk another injury so they can lock in #4. The 4th is needed for that program, without it they will have an even tougher time recruiting.
And much of the stuff written here is for "the Other Iowa Fans". Lots of tongue in cheek stuff to get a rise out of the faithful. I'd guess 5% of the moronic stuff is just that.
 
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Just imagine if RBY started pulling at the shoe when Spencer is trying to finish a shot.

I wouldn't put it past TnT to come onto the mat and stop it themselves.
 
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Well, I think it’s fair to say that I’m not all Iowa fans. I recognize when other teams have exceptional athletes. Many won’t.

I think it’s also fair to note that your boys, while having outstanding careers, never really had to deal with the types of injuries, (or wrestled with the types of injuries) that Lee has had

personally, I’d love to see a Lee vs RBY meeting. I got Lee.
Can you take us through how injuries caused each of his five losses?

Ruth did lose out on winning four by injury. Nolf won an ncaa tournament on a torn knee. In fact, both had an injury default loss too. CStar just won nationals with a broken hand. Are you sure you know enough about our guys’ injuries to have this argument?
 

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Can you take us through how injuries caused each of his five losses?

Ruth did lose out on winning four by injury. Nolf won an ncaa tournament on a torn knee. In fact, both had an injury default loss too. CStar just won nationals with a broken hand. Are you sure you know enough about our guys’ injuries to have this argument?
Probably not. Maybe because I don’t care enough about your guys to know those things!

Just like I wouldn’t expect you to know, or care, about our guys! And I think that is a fair position for either side to have!
 

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Can you take us through how injuries caused each of his five losses?

Ruth did lose out on winning four by injury. Nolf won an ncaa tournament on a torn knee. In fact, both had an injury default loss too. CStar just won nationals with a broken hand. Are you sure you know enough about our guys’ injuries to have this argument?
Agreed. For a fanbase that loves the tagline "excuses are for wussies" - well, you know what I'm going to say.

And that has been something that has stuck in my craw with Spencer as well for a long time. When it comes to the guy who coined the tagline above, somehow everyone always knows and is publicizing the "amazing feats" accomplished while posting x-rays, or whispers about an injury or illness after a loss - right back to in HS. To be fair, it is most likely coming from his circle and maybe not from Spencer himself. Probably part of the 3-inch binder.

I never heard Nolf say one thing about his knee even when asked about it repeatedly by the media. Just went out and wrestled, no excuses. Never heard Ruth mention missing out on being a 4xer either because of injury. Still don't know what Brooks was dealing with.

Honestly, the tagline is attached to the wrong program - you don't need to look past the coaching staff to see that.
 

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Agreed. For a fanbase that loves the tagline "excuses are for wussies" - well, you know what I'm going to say.

And that has been something that has stuck in my craw with Spencer as well for a long time. When it comes to the guy who coined the tagline above, somehow everyone always knows and is publicizing the "amazing feats" accomplished while posting x-rays, or whispers about an injury or illness after a loss - right back to in HS. To be fair, it is most likely coming from his circle and maybe not from Spencer himself. Probably part of the 3-inch binder.

I never heard Nolf say one thing about his knee even when asked about it repeatedly by the media. Just went out and wrestled, no excuses. Never heard Ruth mention missing out on being a 4xer either because of injury. Still don't know what Brooks was dealing with.

Honestly, the tagline is attached to the wrong program - you don't need to look past the coaching staff to see that.
You're being paid to say this, aren't you...
 

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Probably not. Maybe because I don’t care enough about your guys to know those things!

Just like I wouldn’t expect you to know, or care, about our guys! And I think that is a fair position for either side to have!
Fair is generally biased on the internet.
 
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Well, I think it’s fair to say that I’m not all Iowa fans. I recognize when other teams have exceptional athletes. Many won’t.

I think it’s also fair to note that your boys, while having outstanding careers, never really had to deal with the types of injuries, (or wrestled with the types of injuries) that Lee has had

personally, I’d love to see a Lee vs RBY meeting. I got Lee.
You would.
 

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Can you take us through how injuries caused each of his five losses?

Ruth did lose out on winning four by injury. Nolf won an ncaa tournament on a torn knee. In fact, both had an injury default loss too. CStar just won nationals with a broken hand. Are you sure you know enough about our guys’ injuries to have this argument?
Wasn’t Ed behind significantly when he got dinged against Mooch?
 
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Spencer is so dominant that his farts sniff him.
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nitlion6

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Humor for the day. Courtesy of @24timenattychamps:

If we’re getting crazy we should just bump Spencer to 33 for the PSU dual and have Cullan take out Howard. Would be the ultimate troll if it works out

It would be pretty one sided. Especially close after weigh ins like it would be for a dual. Most of the shots Austin got in on against RBY, Spencer will finish. RBY would have a terrible time on bottom as well.
This conclusion from the same brain trust that brought us:
Brands owns Cael
Cael will never beat Brands
St John is closing the gap.
Just wait until Ruth and Taylor graduate
Everybody on the planet who beats a Hawk is stalling
Folkstyle pushouts is offensively an aggressive wrestling style

Everybody on here could add numerous other examples.

Lee wrestling RBY at 133 could get ugly as I see no way Lee doesn't gas bad.

Bumping up a weight class while maintaining a weight that is within making 125 in a week or two means risking the health of the knees.

Personally I would love to see it. A 4 time national champ with a single dual loss that puts the Hodge back on the PSU shelf.
 

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RBY vs Lee, I’m taking RBY. When this kid shoots, he always gets it bc he goes for broke. Lee just hasn’t wrestled the same quality of competition. I root against PSU on general principle but RBY is the one kid I’m really pulling for this year.
 

nitlion6

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I'd like to see the best of 5 matches between those two.
Our thoughts of RBY rolling him are as interesting as HR's report of Spencer taking the wood to him.
But sign me up I'd watch.
To be clear, at 133 I believe RBY is too much for Spencer. If RBY were to cut to 125 I pick Spencer.
I think we would all love to see the match, it just isn't going to happen.
 
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NO, Ed was up 2-1 when the injury occurred.

Yeah, pretty shitty of the ref to have allowed him to capture the toe against his abdomen locked by his free hand. The toe is supposed to be free, like the way Zain, Nick and Dean all practice. It just adds that much more power to hyper extending the knee.
 

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Yeah, pretty shitty of the ref to have allowed him to capture the toe against his abdomen locked by his free hand. The toe is supposed to be free, like the way Zain, Nick and Dean all practice. It just adds that much more power to hyper extending the knee.
Mouch's style is dirty. Every Scramble he is not trying to score, he is trying to hurt his opponent.
 

Mike Zierath

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Mouch's style is dirty. Every Scramble he is not trying to score, he is trying to hurt his opponent.
See above for a list of excuses from @nitlion6 who acted like it only happens in Iowa.

every fan base is guilty of observations that are occasionally, well, ridiculous. Period!

Z
 

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Yeah, pretty shitty of the ref to have allowed him to capture the toe against his abdomen locked by his free hand. The toe is supposed to be free, like the way Zain, Nick and Dean all practice. It just adds that much more power to hyper extending the knee.
I re-watched the video to make sure about this, but all of the cranking was on Ed's right leg and yet the injury ended up being to Ed's left knee. I have no idea how it happened.
 

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See above for a list of excuses from @nitlion6 who acted like it only happens in Iowa.

every fan base is guilty of observations that are occasionally, well, ridiculous. Period!

Z
Not Iowa, HR! I don't imagine all Iowa fans are as a collective nearly as idiotic as HR is. And no, all fan bases, nor team's message boards are anywhere near the collective stupidity as generally exhibited on HR.
 
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Cstroke

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An empty can rattles the most, unfortunately they have several empty cans.
I miss our empty cans..
 

Mike Zierath

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Not Iowa, HR! I don't imagine all Iowa fans are as a collective nearly as idiotic as HR is. And no, all fan bases, nor team's message boards are anywhere near the collective stupidity as generally exhibited on HR.
That would be one persons opinion. I think you would get the same thing from HR towards this board.

it is what it is, and won’t change.

Z
 

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this will upset some people why do Pa kids go to iowa because they cant start at PSU with very few exceptions!why dont iowa kids go to PSU they wouldnt be starters!!Have a great day everyone
 

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Spencer Lee is incredible but he’s wrestling kids who are eventually gonna bump up. I think he’s an amazing wrestler without any real competition. I hope he bumps up to wrestle RBY. I think RBY could make 125 but why bother when he’s won two titles at 133? Plus, I love RBY’s story!! He personifies the Tucson, AZ vibe!
 
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Spencer Lee is incredible but he’s wrestling kids who are eventually gonna bump up. I think he’s an amazing wrestler without any real competition. I hope he bumps up to wrestle RBY. I think RBY could make 125 but why bother when he’s won two titles at 133? Plus, I love RBY’s story!! He personifies the Tucson, AZ vibe!
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