Disagree. Some of these kids would have just gotten there either this summer or maybe even just a month or so ago.
2pm Maryland press conference today with President and AD...
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Disagree. Some of these kids would have just gotten there either this summer or maybe even just a month or so ago.
+1. When I had heard that McNair passed on Wed. I thought it was Wed. of last week not June 19th. SMH.
That was also under Debbie Yow's watch and she was horrible.
Everyone associated with MD wanted her gone.
here's a clip about Ralph being pushed out.....
Friedgen and his team take the field in the 2010 Military Bowl
Maryland went 8–4 during the regular season.[29] For the turnaround, the Atlantic Coast Conference named Friedgen the ACC Coach of the Year.[30]
After Maryland won seven of its first ten games, questions about Friedgen's job security diminished.[31][32] On November 19, 2010, Maryland athletic director Kevin Anderson announced that Friedgen would be returning for the 2011 season, the final year of his contract.[33] Despite this announcement, after offensive coordinator James Franklin accepted a job at Vanderbilt and offered positions to four other members of the staff,[34] Anderson did not answer questions about Friedgen's future on December 17.[35] On December 18, 2010, it was reported in The Washington Post that the school was terminating him as head coach and had offered him a buyout of his remaining contract valued at $2,000,000.[36] On December 20, 2010, athletic director Kevin Anderson made an official announcement that Friedgen would not be returning for the 2011 season.[37] In an interview with WNST in Baltimore, Friedgen said he was so angry over the firing that he burned his Maryland diploma and now roots mainly for Georgia Tech.[38][39]
here's a clip about Ralph being pushed out.....
Friedgen and his team take the field in the 2010 Military Bowl
Maryland went 8–4 during the regular season.[29] For the turnaround, the Atlantic Coast Conference named Friedgen the ACC Coach of the Year.[30]
After Maryland won seven of its first ten games, questions about Friedgen's job security diminished.[31][32] On November 19, 2010, Maryland athletic director Kevin Anderson announced that Friedgen would be returning for the 2011 season, the final year of his contract.[33] Despite this announcement, after offensive coordinator James Franklin accepted a job at Vanderbilt and offered positions to four other members of the staff,[34] Anderson did not answer questions about Friedgen's future on December 17.[35] On December 18, 2010, it was reported in The Washington Post that the school was terminating him as head coach and had offered him a buyout of his remaining contract valued at $2,000,000.[36] On December 20, 2010, athletic director Kevin Anderson made an official announcement that Friedgen would not be returning for the 2011 season.[37] In an interview with WNST in Baltimore, Friedgen said he was so angry over the firing that he burned his Maryland diploma and now roots mainly for Georgia Tech.[38][39]
Thanks for the correction. I thought that was Debbie Yow's doing.
link: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...nd-jordan-mcnair-attorney-20180812-story.html
An attorney for the family of Maryland offensive lineman Jordan McNair said Sunday that football coach DJ Durkin should be fired “immediately” for his role in overseeing the offseason workout that left the former McDonogh star hospitalized.
The stupid Terps can’t even start a press conference on time.
CJF took 4 other staffer with him...well 1 was John Donovan, the other name was Dwight Galt, the 2 other guys, from reading this, were low level guys that probably barely got paid at MD. So its not quite like CJF raided everyone from Ralph!! CJF took 1 of the 9 full time coaches with him, hey thats life.
https://vucommodores.com/documents/...l_2011_12_misc_non_event__2011_fb_coaches.pdf
"Meanwhile, while they wait for the presser to start, the BTN crew has no choice but to fill space by rehashing every aspect of the scandal."
which scandal ? McNair or the other youngster?
which scandal ? McNair or the other youngster?
Yeah, you ought to direct your angst at the people that actually killed a kid. Not at one of thousands that have simply pointed it out.
This PC is out of control. A public apology , calling this kids death is a series of mistakes. Seriously you call what happened a series of mistakes. These are professional training staff and they didn't know enough to recognize heat exhaustion and how to treat it. The staff made other players drag this kid off the field , Durkin is present and obviously watches this happen, they fire the one trainer but Durkin is still there.
Oh and I liked when the president mentioned the one guy to the investigation team as someone who over saw the NCAA aspect of the Penn State scandal..
Oh and I liked when the president mentioned the one guy to the investigation team as someone who over saw the NCAA aspect of the Penn State scandal..
This is the kind of question that will be raised for every member of their coaching staff. If Canada is the new man he will be first in the interrogation room. It will not be pretty.
As more comes percolating out from this disaster other coaches will be asked what they knew, when the knew it, and what did they do, or not do, about it. If they even get close to having knowledge of the Neanderthal coaching/conditioning practices they have to go.
Their Chancellor might just have to shut things down for a year and get the mess cleaned up. We are talking about a death here.
Okay, now I understand the thought process being UMD's "Fear the Turtle" phrase. They're talking about their President, AD and football staff.
If you’ve acknowledged that the death of a player was completely preventable, I’m not sure how the head coach isn’t canned.
They pinned the entire thing on trainers & S/C staff--went out of their way to not mention Durkin.
urban to the Tosu "investigative committee":
"How do I look now?"
"How do I look now?"
Funny how everyone talks about due process and the AD at UMD mentions that everyone deserves due process well f-them - PSU never got “due process” just a rush to judgement.
The press conference was pure public relations. From that perspective, it seemed to work.
So from the time line I've seen:
"
5:57 p.m. — 911 is called, unidentified caller reports that McNair is “hyperventilating” and “unable to control his breath.”
6:02 p.m. — Ambulance arrives with first-responders.
Approximately 6:07 p.m. — A first responder relays to dispatchers that there is a “male patient with seizure.”
6:08 p.m. — A paramedic crew is on its way to the scene.
6:36 p.m. — McNair arrives at Washington Adventist Hospital, in Takoma Park, per the county’s report.
Later that night — McNair is airlifted to R Adams Cowley Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore."
I'm curious why they took him to the hospital in Takoma Park when there are at least two hospitals closer to campus (I mean, I've been there and it's fine, but it's not a fantastic hospital). I'm assuming they'd want to take him to the closest option to start treatment, no?
They should have followed the ND playbook and simply ignored it?
I vaguely remember the one at Northwestern. Were there coaches present or was it during the off season.
I think what has many upset is not only McNair's needless death but the other stuff that was going on. Making players eat until they throw up, throwing weights at them...
I suspect Kevin Plank is calling the shots from behind the curtain.
The AD came across as a buffoon. He said they spent the last 2+ months “grieving” and are only now investigating what happened. No follow up question about what might have happened if there was another tragedy during the grieving time. He also said they didn’t know about the problems until they read the ESPN piece. That answer right there should have resulted in an immediate firing. Possibly before he finished the press conference.
I don't know much about the other cases.
From what I read in the ESPN report you had a consistent pattern of abusive language, behavior, and attitude right out of 1952 "old school John Wayne coaching" at Maryland. It's not 1952.
The fact this behavior continued right up till the young man was suffering severely and others were told to "drag him off the field" is just over the top.
This is far from over. One press conference will not tell the story. If the story from the coaches, athletic trainers, and players differ by even a couple of degrees, this will go on, and on, and on.
Well, that means we as PSU fans should want to see due process, right?
They have sufficient grounds to fire the head trainer now, so they're doing it. They don't need any more process in that case. The trainer is responsible for the physical safety of the players and they have a dead player.
Durkin has got to be gone as well but it's more complicated. His degree of culpability in the McNair death has to be established, and the the other issue -- abuse/humiliation of players -- they need to try to determine what Durkin knew, what he did and then square that with Maryland employee polices and his contract. And that is important mostly for monetary reasons -- to determine whether Md. can dump him without paying him the balance of his contract. It's a lot of money so that will take time, and Durkin will have very well paid lawyers arguing his side.
But I don't think it's a question of Durkin staying or going. He's radioactive. There's no way he wasn't aware of the abusive tactics the staff was using on players. But even if that isn't provable, there's no way they can have a football program with him there. There's not a four star prospect in the country whose parents would let him even visit UMD at this point. If they don't have clear cause to fire him, they'll have to buy him out.
We don't know how much of that is true or overblown though...these situations are always interesting because you'll never really know the full story behind it...just put together the pieces
That ESPN piece looked pretty solid to me. They had details, they had multiple sources and multiple witnesses. It is VERY hard to get players to talk against their own program, and there were players willing to do it because what went on was so out of bounds.
You have to consider that ESPN reporters probably didn't even find out the worst stuff. If Maryland actually does honest interviews with players they'll get a much more complete picture than ESPN had.
Barry's reference to Ted Agu's death following a Cal football conditioning session reminds me that he had a health condition (specifically, "sickle cell trait") that contributed to his death. (Not trying to minimize his death, or the university's responsibility. Just noting that Agu did, in fact, have a health condition which exacerbated things for him.)
Did this kid McNair have any particular health condition, other than perhaps being big and carrying a large body mass, that might have contributed to his death?
