10 PSU rookies make NFL rosters

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Ten players from Penn State's 2021 roster made NFL teams as rookies, joining 34 other former Nittany Lions on rosters ahead of opening week.


Top 10 on NFL rosters yet Franklin has never had a roster that averaged even top 15 recruiting classes. Maybe he has had a better coaching staff than some here believe.....
 
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Green Bay Packers: Safety Adrian Amos, offensive tackle Rasheed Walker

It's still funny to me that anyone ever thought he made the wrong decision
That number is very misleading though given 9 guys being on the PS
 
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Green Bay Packers: Safety Adrian Amos, offensive tackle Rasheed Walker

It's still funny to me that anyone ever thought he made the wrong decision
That number is very misleading though given 9 guys being on the PS
The 10 schools with the most players on 53-man rosters as Week 1 begins:
1. Alabama: 58
2. LSU: 53
3. Ohio State: 51
4. Georgia: 43
5. Notre Dame: 35
6. Penn State: 34
7. Michigan: 33
T-8. Oklahoma: 32
T-8. Florida: 32
10. Iowa: 30
 

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The 10 schools with the most players on 53-man rosters as Week 1 begins:
1. Alabama: 58
2. LSU: 53
3. Ohio State: 51
4. Georgia: 43
5. Notre Dame: 35
6. Penn State: 34
7. Michigan: 33
T-8. Oklahoma: 32
T-8. Florida: 32
10. Iowa: 30
Not an Iowa fan by any means but them being #10 says a lot about their player development compared to recruiting high star athletes.
 

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Not an Iowa fan by any means but them being #10 says a lot about their player development compared to recruiting high star athletes.
I just looked up their guys and only 5 of them are skill position players with Kittle, Hockenson & Fant being 3 of those 5. The other two are a backup RB & QB. Iowa is into developing lineman and defensive players. It keeps them in the 7-10 win category annually. Gotta give Ferentz credit for keeping to a style and making it work.
 

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The 10 schools with the most players on 53-man rosters as Week 1 begins:
1. Alabama: 58
2. LSU: 53
3. Ohio State: 51
4. Georgia: 43
5. Notre Dame: 35
6. Penn State: 34
7. Michigan: 33
T-8. Oklahoma: 32
T-8. Florida: 32
10. Iowa: 30
Make that 35 for PSU as Trace McSorley was added to Arizona’s 53 man roster. He’s now the back-up to Tyler Murray as Colt McCoy was placed on IR.
 
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The 10 schools with the most players on 53-man rosters as Week 1 begins:
1. Alabama: 58
2. LSU: 53
3. Ohio State: 51
4. Georgia: 43
5. Notre Dame: 35
6. Penn State: 34
7. Michigan: 33
T-8. Oklahoma: 32
T-8. Florida: 32
10. Iowa: 30
I guess that is now 35 since Trace is being moved up!
 

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To clarify--you're saying we're not underachieving?
Another conclusion that could be drawn from that list is certain programs have been nothing more than minor leagues without success at the CFB level. Seems like that would be the definition of a "football factory" type of program. The majority of programs on that list have at least been in the title hunt, so they have done better at utilizing that talent at the college level.
 

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The 10 schools with the most players on 53-man rosters as Week 1 begins:
1. Alabama: 58
2. LSU: 53
3. Ohio State: 51
4. Georgia: 43
5. Notre Dame: 35
6. Penn State: 34
7. Michigan: 33
T-8. Oklahoma: 32
T-8. Florida: 32
10. Iowa: 30
With the exception of Iowa, these are the schools that recruit the best...not surprising. But where’s Clemson and SoCal? No Texas schools? FSU? The separation at the top is significant.
 
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Another conclusion that could be drawn from that list is certain programs have been nothing more than minor leagues without success at the CFB level. Seems like that would be the definition of a "football factory" type of program. The majority of programs on that list have at least been in the title hunt, so they have done better at utilizing that talent at the college level.
Again--are we underachieving?
 

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Again--are we underachieving?
Is the question regarding recent times or in a more historical sense?
Lets add some context...
Sans roughly a decade following the turn of the century Penn State has always been at the top of this list. Typically with the likes of Alabama, Miami, USC and Notre Dame. This isn't a new position for Penn State, its a typical one. Penn State is #7 at having the most draft picks ever at 375. So let's fairly expand your question to a more broad time, you'd actually have to ask has Penn State underachieved since the mid-70's? Mainly on JoePa's watch. Dorney, Benson, Farrell, Munchak, Pankey, Joe was pumping out NFL players for years at as high of a level as most any other school. Because Penn State has almost always been in the top 10 at producing NFL players since the mid to late 70's yet they have only come away with 3 championships (82,86,94) during that roughly 50 year span. Meanwhile LSU, not nearly thought of on the level of say Bama or Notre Dame historically, has won 3 titles with 3 different coaches in the past 20 years. Is LSU overachieving? I think it goes without saying that Ohio State is the greatest underachiever in college football, they always have best in class talent or thereabouts, yet nowhere near the number of titles of other institutions. Paterno notched 3 big ten championships (94,05,08) in about 18 years, Franklin has one in 8 years. Times have changed and most fairly you'd have to look at Franklin's years not dealing with covid-season, sanctions, scholie reductions and stigma as having say 4 or 5 viable years to win a championship, not 8. If you look at happened to Penn State between say 2000-2005 you had a talentless team, with a bunch of hybrid FB,TE,DE types, WR's that couldn't catch a cold and quarterbacks who couldn't even get a tryout with an NFL team in a CFB landscape that was moving to pass happy spread option football. It didn't work out very good for PSU at that time.

 
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Is the question regarding recent times or in a more historical sense?
Lets add some context...
Sans roughly a decade following the turn of the century Penn State has always been at the top of this list. Typically with the likes of Alabama, Miami, USC and Notre Dame. This isn't a new position for Penn State, its a typical one. Penn State is #7 at having the most draft picks ever at 375. So let's fairly expand your question to a more broad time, you'd actually have to ask has Penn State underachieved since the mid-70's? Mainly on JoePa's watch. Dorney, Benson, Farrell, Munchak, Pankey, Joe was pumping out NFL players for years at as high of a level as most any other school. Because Penn State has almost always been in the top 10 at producing NFL players since the mid to late 70's yet they have only come away with 3 championships (82,86,94) during that roughly 50 year span. Meanwhile LSU, not nearly thought of on the level of say Bama or Notre Dame historically, has won 3 titles with 3 different coaches in the past 20 years. Is LSU overachieving? I think it goes without saying that Ohio State is the greatest underachiever in college football, they always have best in class talent or thereabouts, yet nowhere near the number of titles of other institutions. Paterno notched 3 big ten championships (94,05,08) in about 18 years, Franklin has one in 8 years. Times have changed and most fairly you'd have to look at Franklin's years not dealing with covid-season, sanctions, scholie reductions and stigma as having say 4 or 5 viable years to win a championship, not 8. If you look at happened to Penn State between say 2000-2005 you had a talentless team, with a bunch of hybrid FB,TE,DE types, WR's that couldn't catch a cold and quarterbacks who couldn't even get a tryout with an NFL team in a CFB landscape that was moving to pass happy spread option football. It didn't work out very good for PSU at that time.

Why limit your fantasy titles to the one for 94? Why aren't you counting all undefeated seasons as championships? If you are going to award fake championships quit doing a half-assed job.
 

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Why limit your fantasy titles to the one for 94? Why aren't you counting all undefeated seasons as championships? If you are going to award fake championships quit doing a half-assed job.
Well because those happened in the 60's and I specifically said from the mid to late 70's but who's actually reading the content before spouting off?
 

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Is the question regarding recent times or in a more historical sense?
Lets add some context...
Sans roughly a decade following the turn of the century Penn State has always been at the top of this list. Typically with the likes of Alabama, Miami, USC and Notre Dame. This isn't a new position for Penn State, its a typical one. Penn State is #7 at having the most draft picks ever at 375. So let's fairly expand your question to a more broad time, you'd actually have to ask has Penn State underachieved since the mid-70's? Mainly on JoePa's watch. Dorney, Benson, Farrell, Munchak, Pankey, Joe was pumping out NFL players for years at as high of a level as most any other school. Because Penn State has almost always been in the top 10 at producing NFL players since the mid to late 70's yet they have only come away with 3 championships (82,86,94) during that roughly 50 year span. Meanwhile LSU, not nearly thought of on the level of say Bama or Notre Dame historically, has won 3 titles with 3 different coaches in the past 20 years. Is LSU overachieving? I think it goes without saying that Ohio State is the greatest underachiever in college football, they always have best in class talent or thereabouts, yet nowhere near the number of titles of other institutions. Paterno notched 3 big ten championships (94,05,08) in about 18 years, Franklin has one in 8 years. Times have changed and most fairly you'd have to look at Franklin's years not dealing with covid-season, sanctions, scholie reductions and stigma as having say 4 or 5 viable years to win a championship, not 8. If you look at happened to Penn State between say 2000-2005 you had a talentless team, with a bunch of hybrid FB,TE,DE types, WR's that couldn't catch a cold and quarterbacks who couldn't even get a tryout with an NFL team in a CFB landscape that was moving to pass happy spread option football. It didn't work out very good for PSU at that time.

Let's say the last 25 years or so.
We didn't win the title in 94--had the best team but technically not the MNC
Yes, LSU overachieves IMO
 

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Ten players from Penn State's 2021 roster made NFL teams as rookies, joining 34 other former Nittany Lions on rosters ahead of opening week.


Top 10 on NFL rosters yet Franklin has never had a roster that averaged even top 15 recruiting classes. Maybe he has had a better coaching staff than some here believe.....
Better yet maybe he gets less out of his talent then he should.
 

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Better yet maybe he gets less out of his talent then he should.
Better yet, maybe he gets more out of his talent than he should. And maybe Franklin and his staff develop the talent they recruit better than other staffs.

Franklin has never had a roster made up of recruiting classes that average top 10 rated classes, yet his players were developed such that his players seem to be top 10 in getting into the NFL. There seem to be a good many teams that consistently recruit top 10 recruiting classes that don't show up on the list of schools developing large numbers of NFL talent......

Franklin has never had a roster made up of recruiting classes that average top 10, or top 15 for that matter, yet his teams have finished in the top 10 final team rankings 3 time.

Go figure.
 
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Better yet, maybe he gets more out of his talent than he should. And maybe Franklin and his staff develop the talent they recruit better than other staffs.

Franklin has never had a roster made up of recruiting classes that average top 10 rated classes, yet his players were developed such that his players seem to be top 10 in getting into the NFL.

Franklin has never had a roster made up of recruiting classes that average top 10, or top 15 for that matter, yet his teams have finished in the top 10 final team rankings 3 time.

Go figure.
Terrific point.
If you look at that 10 teams posted, sans Iowa, it would be hard to argue that Penn State gets more raw talent (on paper rankings from recruiting services) in an annual recruiting cycle than the other 8 schools.
It is would be easier to make an argument that Penn State develops them better than the vast majority of the others mentioned.
 

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An altered state
.The biggest issue facing PSU vs the top teams in the country is depth. A few key injuries and we are in trouble just like last year. Putting ten rookies on the NFL roster shows we get some top talent. But we don’t get the depth we need to thrive.

And note that the O line is under represented. And the o line is the key to all the great teams despite all the glory going to hot shot QBs, flashy receivers, and bad ass running backs.
 
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Better yet, maybe he gets more out of his talent than he should. And maybe Franklin and his staff develop the talent they recruit better than other staffs.

Franklin has never had a roster made up of recruiting classes that average top 10 rated classes, yet his players were developed such that his players seem to be top 10 in getting into the NFL. There seem to be a good many teams that consistently recruit top 10 recruiting classes that don't show up on the list of schools developing large numbers of NFL talent......

Franklin has never had a roster made up of recruiting classes that average top 10, or top 15 for that matter, yet his teams have finished in the top 10 final team rankings 3 time.

Go figure.
I guess that’s why he doesn’t beat any teams in the top 15 and loses to unranked teams.