In addition to the actions described in your first paragraph, AD's and HC's at other Universities would have had Jerry running up and down the bleachers till he nearly died before turning him over to the mob and then terminate his pension and any other features of his retirement package.
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That's the best you can do? Lol. No, I used them as an example of how not all that are attached to PSU are blind idiots that think that they win with integrity and do everything clean. If a player were to be arrested at PSU, it would be just another piece to their storied history. The culture has been was worse at PSU for a long time.. Prove me that I'm wrong, I'll wait.
So I should something called "safeguard old state" over the Wall Street Journal. Gotcha. How about you show me a Wikipedia article instead?
Let me amplify what Art pointed out above. From Wikipedia:
Cornell University (designated on April 27, 1865)[3] (Cornell is a private university with four statutory colleges, supported by the State of New York, that fulfill its land-grant mission.)
Yup being a land grant institution is the only thing keeping RU from getting in the Ivy League. Well that and that fact that they are not among the top 100 universities in the country.
FYI, your cousin sounds like a twit.
Way to take one piece of my post and try to twist it. Rutgers has only been "major" conference since 1992. That was the Big East. But until Greg Schiano was coach, they did not care to fund athletics. Now compare that to the other B1G schools. A pretty short amount of time, right? Now, they're behind the curve because of a huge step up in conference strength so it's coming back to bite them. So they are going to need more time before a decision can be made on them because of the fact that previous administrations set them back by ignoring athletics almost completely.
That bill the was passed was to restrict the ability of Rutgers to take out loans for athletic purposes because state funded assistance is already so high (another consequence of neglecting the athletic program them trying to hang with the heavyweights). But there is a state senator in NJ, I believe his name is Lesniak, who is attempting to reverse the Faculty Senate bill with his own state sponsored bill. And is that the first time anybody has ever been hired because of something they've done? Parents and ex-coaches have never been hired because a school just landed their kid, right? That would never happen lol.
JerseyShoreKnight is doing his best to prove how smart Mark Twain was.
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
And from what I have seen of many Rutgers trolls here, another Twain quote comes to mind..."Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
No, Rutgers is a public, state-funded research university. Cornell is a private, statutory university. While they may receive some state funding, they operate independently from the state. That is not the case at RU.
Rutgers is a cesspool. Can you imagine any of these criminals playing for Penn State when Joe was alive? I can't!
Prove you wrong? I don't have to. You came here with your silly anecdote that some guy at a wedding you attended told you that Joe Paterno had gotten away with a lot. Again, did you interview Joe's barber, too? So no, that's not the best I can do but it's all I have to do. Your "guy at a wedding" source is laughable. I mean, I've seen people come here claiming Joe was a despicable human being, but never was the source of this some guy at a wedding who is an authority because it was on Labor Day and they had the PSU game on at the reception. You couldn't use the Freeh Report? Are we at the point where some guy who got married on Labor Day is a better source of the truth than the Freeh Report?
You know what? I take what I said back. I have to give you credit for using your guy at a wedding as proof because he's just as likely as much of an expert on this as Louis Freeh.
Now, now. I'm fairly certain that Penn State had a string of bad apples that were dealt with in the mid-2000's. This happens everywhere. Thankfully, both Penn State and Rutgers have a good track record of taking out the trash.
You should re-read you post and try again with correct grammar. Then you should use google to read the articles destroying you WSJ article for being tabloid trash. (Of course I suggested that in my last post, and you seemed to have missed it) Then you should google "Vicky Triponey" just to see what the first article that comes up is...
https://www.google.com/#q=vicky+triponey
Then you should notice that your trash from WSJ barely makes the first page. There is a CNN article that basically sites the Freeh report as proof that Triponey was right... No one is dumb enough these days to put any stock in the Freeh report. So what else do you have? You should probably just give up.
And my point is that Cornell is a land grant university.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_land-grant_universities#New_York
Joe had his share of players who ended up on the wrong side of the law as well. Every school recruits players who end up in trouble. It's inevitable. It's not an indictment of the program or coach, though. Joe didn't have a crystal ball and it doesn't mean coaches should have never given those players who end up in trouble a scholarship, either. It's a failure of those players, not the school, program, or coach when they wind up in trouble. PSU just had a kid who ended up in trouble and is no longer with the team as of last week.
Do you remember Lavon Chisley?
It's not worth it jerseyshore. They don't get it and never will. With the benefit of hindsight, you wouldn't try to convince these guys of anything. I used to try in a good natured way but once I read "chaste pedophile" in regards to Sandusky, they lost me. You see jerseyshore, they are perfect and have an excuse for anything that portrays psu in a bad light.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915
http://arrestnation.com/2015/05/penn-state-university-cornerback-daquan-davis-arrested/
http://www.smokingmusket.com/2014/1...down-penn-state-fans-attack-west-virginia-fan
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915
http://arrestnation.com/2015/05/penn-state-university-cornerback-daquan-davis-arrested/
http://www.smokingmusket.com/2014/1...down-penn-state-fans-attack-west-virginia-fan
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NJ State Senator Ray Lesniak is sponsoring a bill that will provide $25M for RU to use to upgrade its athletic facilities. So yes RU is beginning the process of investing more heavily in athletics. Further, there is nothing wrong with private donors earmarking contributions for specific purposes. Sanderson and Franklin's salaries are subsidized by big PSU contributors. Finally, Jeff Towers role was to be strictly administrative and had nothing to do with evaluating prospects.
Sponsoring is one thing getting approval another. He did include an equal $25 million for two other State subsidized colleges as well, which of course was the only way it would have any chance to get approved. Private donors is what Rutgers needs more of. Basically what the faculty senate told them.
What exactly does Rutgers have to convince us of? How to throw basketballs at players than call them fags? If u call them fags long enough they will kill themselves? That you should glorify wife beaters? How to rob people at gunpoint?
Maybe once Rutgers contributes SOMETHING, ANYTHING to the big10 conference u will earn some respect, but u are bottom of the barrel my friend, athletically speaking u are not only beneath us, but also every other BIG 10 school including Purdue. Go back to ur cesspool in jersey crying about not being able to land a decent recruit in Jersey for 3 years
I have the same thought for this question as I do for those that ask "what would you have done if in McQueary's shoes?" My opinion is that if your answer is anything other than "I don't know", "I'm not entirely sure," or something along those lines, you likely aren't being completely honest with yourself. The situation both of those men were put in was extremely difficult to manage 100% correctly.
I'd like to think that in Paterno's shoes I'd have acted in a similar fashion. I'd want to look up the PSU policy on such incidents, consult the PSU legal and/or HR contacts, and follow the direction and guidance those resources provided. However in the heat of the moment would I have known to do that? I don't know.
In McQueary's shoes I honestly have no idea how I would have reacted.
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No one here said we/PSU are/is perfect. In fact we are far from perfect. I think the reason why this thread ever got started was because of the bizarre behavior of Rutgers concerning Penn State. Rutgers has an inferiority complex and has for some time. Out side of Maryland, Pitt, And Rutgers most schools realized early on that the NCAA went to far in trying to lay blame to an entire university because of the actions of ONE man. Even the NCAA came to their senses and ended their unjust sanctions because they knew they were going to lose majorly in the courts. You can say what you wish about Paterno but the fact remains that Joe did what 99% of people would have done in that situation. Hence that's why the ncaa restored his/penn state's wins. Seems to me the only people like rutgers fans that are truly upset about what happened or what they let their minds believe that happened, are the same people who penn state has consistently out recruited, outplayed and outclased for the last half century.
ru and pitt athletic supporters are foaming at the mouth over Joe's/Penn State's wins being restored. They know that ru and pitt can't rise to Penn State's level, so they are desperate to see Penn State brought down to theirs. It sucks for them that it won't happen.
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The point is RU will begin investing more heavily in athletics as funding dictates. Lesniak all but ordered Barchi to make sure it happens and Julie Hermann needs to cultivate relationships and bring home the bacon over the next 5 years because RU won't be seeing any big pay days from the conference any time soon.
Please let me know when Penn State reaches these stellar heights. Most wins by a coach to coach for 200 yrs. Sorry, I'm not impressed. Outright Conference Championships? Sorry not impressed. Fans that love to talk as if their team was Alabama.....WINNER!
And why don't you go back to Heinz Field and sit with the twenty or so Pitt fans that show up to a Pitt Football game.... And last time I checked...Paterno was 23-7-1 against Pitt so suck it pitter.
PSU was outright B10 Champs a 3 times in the last 20 seasons, against much tougher competition than Pitt faces. PSU has also had some really good seasons they were not B10 champs in that time frame. Because of some questionable calls, Pitt ended up in a 4 way tie for the big east ONCE in that time frame. No PSU fan thinks that they are Alabama, we are rational. It's the Pitt/RU fans that think they are Penn State's level that are delusional.
You obviously can't read. No PSU fan thinks we are Alabama, but we are in a much better position than Pitt. I'm simply comparing the real Pitt vs. the imaginary one in your head. I get it though... I think your football team just won another 2 national championships. No one had claimed 1756, so Pitt just did!
oh this is gonna sting:
Rutgers Cop charged with stealing $30,000 from police union
Grace Stewart, a police officer assigned to the Newark campus of Rutgers University, has been criminally charged with stealing $30,000 from the union that represents officers.
But the university has remained silent about her current status as an employee and a law enforcement officer despite repeated inquiries.
Rutgers Cop charged with stealing $30,000 from police union
Grace Stewart, a police officer assigned to the Newark campus of Rutgers University, has been criminally charged with stealing $30,000 from the union that represents officers.
But the university has remained silent about her current status as an employee and a law enforcement officer despite repeated inquiries.
Funny coming from a Pitt fan. It's always next season that will be great, it's always the next coach that will turn the program around.
We've seen it on the field for 25 years. Pitt has been terrible against terrible competition, and actually has a losing record. Last season, Pitt got steamrolled by AKRON and had a losing season. Penn State has competed for national titles, won conference titles from a conference that still exists, had 10 win regular seasons... all against tougher competition. Even when slapped with unjust sanctions, PSU didn't have a losing season. Quite frankly, the outcome of one game next season is meaningless when compared to what I typed above. That will ease you pain when Pitt loses.
Win your conference and impress me this year...then all your talk won't make me want to vomit. I actually like PSU and cheer for them. However, you guys are some of the craziest fans. Your team is slightly better than Pitt's and has been for sometime. Pitt fans know their reality. You guys are delusional about yours.
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