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OT: New Spectre/James Bond trailer

I love Waltz, but after watching him in a few post-Inglorious Basterds films (Green Hornet, Django Unchained, Horrible Bosses 2, etc.), I've sort of found that he's essentially some version of Col. Landa, which would be impressive if we'd never seen the guy before. He was so stunning and unknown in IG that we didn't know at the time that's just how he acts - and I feel it's the same in every movie. I have no idea how he won an Oscar for Django to be honest - good performance, but not Oscar-worthy IMO. And looking back on the Django win, he beat Arkin (Argo) De Niro (Silver Linings Playbook), Hoffman (The Master), and Tommy Lee Jones (Lincoln). Honestly, all of those performances were better than Waltz's in Django.

As an aside, I realized I haven't seen Quantum of Solace and Moonraker. They worth it?

I'll agree Waltz has a peculiar style of speaking, but there are worlds of difference between Hans Landa and Dr. King Schultz. 2 totally different moral centers. What is amazing to me is that Leo was brilliant in Django, but Jamie Foxx and Waltz still acted circles around him.

QOS is a direct sequel to Casino Royale, opens with a great car chase, has a very tight script with a lot more intrigue and action. and Olga Kurylenko. and Gemma Arterton.

Last time saw Moonraker was at a special screening with Richard Kiel a few years ago. a bit dated of a film (the producers pushed back For Your Eyes Only to make a film to appeal to the Star Wars crowd.) but some great fun if you suspend disbelief.
 
I didn't like QOS when it first came out, but partly because I thought Casino Royale was just so well done. However, over the last few years, I have come to enjoy the film. Good stunts (especially with the airplane), and the opening car chase scene is a great way to open any Bond film.
 
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I'll agree Waltz has a peculiar style of speaking, but there are worlds of difference between Hans Landa and Dr. King Schultz. 2 totally different moral centers. What is amazing to me is that Leo was brilliant in Django, but Jamie Foxx and Waltz still acted circles around him.

QOS is a direct sequel to Casino Royale, opens with a great car chase, has a very tight script with a lot more intrigue and action. and Olga Kurylenko. and Gemma Arterton.

Last time saw Moonraker was at a special screening with Richard Kiel a few years ago. a bit dated of a film (the producers pushed back For Your Eyes Only to make a film to appeal to the Star Wars crowd.) but some great fun if you suspend disbelief.

Fair enough, and part of the similarity for me is QT's dialogue with both characters cause for very similar performances IMO. Different moral center for sure, but mannerisms are nearly identical.

I loved CS so will definitely check out QOS. BTW, I absolutely detested Skyfall.
 
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I didn't like QOS when it first came out, but partly because I thought Casino Royale was just so well done. However, over the last few years, I have come to enjoy the film. Good stunts (especially with the airplane), and the opening car chase scene is a great way to open any Bond film.

QOS moves at a faster pace than most Bond films. But there is a great metaphor (somewhat Biblical) of Bond being in deep pain over (SPOILER!) losing Vesper, that he must literally wander out into the world alone and "find" himself.
 
Fair enough, and part of the similarity for me is QT's dialogue with both characters cause for very similar performances IMO. Different moral center for sure, but mannerisms are nearly identical.

I loved CS so will definitely check out QOS. BTW, I absolutely detested Skyfall.

I really liked Skyfall. Bond is out of touch with the electronic age, so he forced the villain into his world....and was able to defeat him there using his experience, cunning, and guile. Frankly, it was Bond in his most elemental of natures - matching his wits and experience against that of the villain.
 
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Fair enough, and part of the similarity for me is QT's dialogue with both characters cause for very similar performances IMO. Different moral center for sure, but mannerisms are nearly identical.

I loved CS so will definitely check out QOS. BTW, I absolutely detested Skyfall.

I've found investing 4 hours to watch CR and QOS back to back is pretty exciting. I haven't watched Skyfall since it came out on blu ray, recall it has great cinematography and Javier Bardem was quite the twisted villain, but the film was far too derivative of The Dark Knight

on a side note, my g/f wanted to watch the unrated version of Wolverine and loved it. still my favorite comic book adaptation . . .
 
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I really liked Skyfall. Bond is out of touch with the electronic age, so he forced the villain into his world....and was able to defeat him there using his experience, cunning, and guile. Frankly, it was Bond in his most elemental of natures - matching his wits and experience against that of the villain.

 
Yeah, I have seen that. But, you know what? - I still liked the movie and when it comes on cable, I will sit down and watch it again.

Oh, I liked it too - just not the 'best Bond movie ever' or even close in my opinion. The villain and his plot are the worst I've ever seen; the villains in Austin Powers were more believable.
 
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